• Incredibledisaster@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    One of the annoying things about these discussion is the use of ‘children’ and ‘school’ as weasel-words. A 5 year old kindergartner is a child that goes to school, and so is a 17 year old senior. We don’t apply the same standards to both because that’s obviously silly.

    I haven’t read it so take my opinion or don’t, but it sounds like something I wouldn’t read to a 2nd grade class but I can see a teenager reading it and understanding the context.

    • SpicyWater92@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      They do the same thing when the talk about children shot with guns and those statistics. It makes you think little kids when in all actuality a large portion is gang violence from 16/17 year olds. It tugs on the heart strings.

    • jumpyjumperoo@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      I have read it. It’s a really well done, empathetic portrayal of a 14 year old the summer before high school who is struggling with his sexuality, being accepted by peers, and his identity. There is a suicide attempt but not graphically shown, and in that context, a fight with his inner self where he figures out some things that are transformative. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed reading it. There is one scene that involves a group of boys masturbating into a bottle that is not depicted. I’m sad that they removed the book because it addresses bullying in such a way that a reader really understands the impact and they empathize with the victim. I also think there are a lot of kids in that main character’s shoes, and this book with its lessons would be a good resource for them. It is a book for a high school library, and it has found its way into middle school libraries where it is not a great fit.

      Read it, you won’t be sorry you did.

    • Farwaters@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      It’s the same with “minors.” Sometimes, that’s a relevant term (“Minors cannot legally buy cigarettes in this country”) but sometimes it feels like it’s used to infantilize teens a bit. 0-17 is a huge age range, is all.

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      10 months ago

      Some Florida teacher and Casserole Karen tried to start shit by tricking a 17 year old in taking a banned book from the library for example