Sarah Silverman really did a hit job on AI systems on the 11-8 episode of the Daily Show. I feel like it is largely fueled by ignorance of how the mathematics in these systems actually works. These systems do not make “copies/are copycats” like Sarah ignorantly espoused, they train on data and project that into an n-dimensional space to generate something new from its experience, not much different than humans do. They do not memorize the original data and make copies at all.

Most of are you are familiar with 2 dimensions like a piece of paper or 3 dimensions like a cube, machine learning systems learn in n-dimensional space where n can be any number; most of these systems the space is 10,000-1 million dimensions. These systems aren’t simply making a simple copy but extracting the most salient features in text, images, etc into a n-dimensional space to create a new product based on all of its experiences.

This is really no different than how humans create art, they observe lots of styles, learn from it, and try to create new things based on their knowledge based on the many dimensions learned by their observation and experience. Why is it wrong for a computer to learn from art posted online, but it is no issue for a human to learn from art posted online? Do humans have to cite every single painting they ever saw when creating something new? This seems like a double standard honestly.

Also creating AI models is in itself an expression of the artistic process. These systems are created by humans, not machines; they are an extension of human mathematical and scientific creativity. Fire was made by hand for 1000s of years; is it not an extension of human creativity to create a lighter such that you can create a flame at any time; likewise generating AI systems to create art is in itself an extension of human creativity and ingenuity in the same way that creating a lighter to make fire making easier is.

I liked Sarah Silverman for the rest of her segments, but she really showed her ignorance and lack of any technical understanding from a scientific/mathematics perspective on the development of AI.

  • Ok-Manager7196@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    100% this. I’m so sick of all the creatives (even those who should know better like Scott Galloway/Kara Swisher) implying that AI “copies” anymore than we humans do. Just bc AI is faster at learning and has broader skills doesn’t make the artistic process any different than how we learn and then create. I worry SCOTUS has a long history of “not getting it” as well and we’ll end up with some new standard for AI creation that doesn’t exist for humans.

    If you don’t like art that can be “done in the style of Sarah Silverman”, then define how it can be commercially used if “too close”, just as we do for human copying.

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      1 year ago

      “Just because bc AI is faster at learning and has broader skills doesn’t make the artistic process any different than how we learn and then create”

      No AI will ever cry in an alleyway because the audience the night before loved them while tonight’s hated them. No AI will have it’s heart broken and bury its parents. No computer will have to look down the face of a terminal disease and find the will to keep creating.

      You mindless chuds who consume art with no respect for the pain and struggle of what it takes to create art from the intangible.

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      1 year ago

      AI doesn’t create, it outputs. You can test this easily, ask an artist to draw a picture of their happiest or saddest memory, then ask the AI to do the same.