I see a lot of people hating on Eve’s dad, and rightfully so. He’s bigoted, aggressive and extremely dismissive of Eve’s powers and feelings. He also is just an overall dick….BUT he did make a point when he said this. Eve sometimes rushes to help without fully understand the context of situation since her powers are so busted and wide-ranging. So far that hasn’t been a huge issue, at least that we’ve seen on screen, but last week’s episode showed us the negative repercussions of her actions. So as it stands, Eve’s dad is wrong 99% of the time, but right on this rare instance. What do y’all think?

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    Eve would be inclined to listen to him and take his advice if he wasn’t a shitty person, but in this instance there wasn’t a nearby source of info for Eve to know about the unstable lot. IF she knew about it, her powers could have fixed it before she built there.

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    If the government knew about the sinkhole, why lie to the public and leave the building in shambles? Why aren’t they hiring supers to fix problems like this in the first place? Put that girl in architecure school and let her be a city planner.

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    She just needs to be more thorough. If she used her powers to restructure the ground too, it would have been perfectly fine

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    I definitely saw the outcome happening from her rebuilding the way she did. Only I thought it was going to be some sort of “shoddy” craftsmanship rather than unstable ground.

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      I had this thought as Mark was pulling up the wave to put out the fire for the firemen in S02E01. Like…why don’t you fly down there to the guy in charge, ask him if you can help, offer to create this wave and if he says yes, do it. But not, if he disagrees. He’s the man in charge, not Mark.

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      “How am I supposed to know that’s up to code?”

      It’s a good sentiment.

      But so is “Why wasn’t the lot cordoned off if it was so dangerous?” Or “Why isn’t the city government trying to see if Eve’s work IS up to code”

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      to be fair, we’ve never seen any issues with things created using eve’s powers before, structurally, it’d all be sound, but the land itself was unfit for building (though if she’d known that she probably could have fixed that too, let’s be honest)

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          I mean, as long as she’s only patching holes and matching it exactly to the things around it, it should be fine. Making a whole new building altogether would be a different story.

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          For the building that got caved, just following the pattern and uncracking the mortar/blocks+ support joists should do it just fine. It’s not like it super matters for fire rating or the such, brick doesn’t really care for that, and the wall that got caved was exterior and not adjoining another structure, so it probably only needs 1 hour rating and an exterior brick wall for a building that tall is probably somewhere in the range of a foot thick or fire rated for 10 hours.

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          Yeah, golden apples are easy, but structural integrity of a building takes years of engineering.

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    This part of the ep bothered me because there is a giant plot hole: The city should have put up signs saying the place was unstable. Also if that one section was bad, shouldnt the buildings around it be affected too?

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      I came here to say this exact same thing. The woman who lived in the building said she even complaining about it for the better part of a couple years, but the city never provided reason for why they never did anything with that vacant lot. And this happens all the time, whether bureaucrats are just lazy, or want to save a couple bucks.

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    I mean removed from the context of the show he has a point, but when said point is sandwiched between a bunch of sexist and chauvinist beliefs and is essentially used as a “gotcha” in an argument to avoid feeling emasculated by his daughter, it’s hard to take too seriously

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      Yeah exactly, and also why the fuck was the site still there if it was such a danger. The mother and kid at the park scene mentioned how long she’d been petitioning the city to fix it and just…no one ever mentioned that it was a sinkhole?

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    Why would no one tell her? How are we finding this out from a fucking newspaper?

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      Nothing. Her transmutations are perfect. It had nothing to do with the park itself, just that she didn’t have all the information before she started building. If she knew that the lot was basically under a sinkhole, she could have fixed that beforehand.

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      Probably because it was the first thing of actual substance that he ever had against his daughter.

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    That’s the thing that makes hatable people really hatable, there’s often a certain amount of truth in the things they say, but what makes us angry is how they weaponize those truths to hurt, belittle, or abuse people.

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      Yeah. Adam didn’t care about the people who died(?), or about Eve. He just wanted to rub it in her face.

      I also want to say Eve’s mom doesn’t do enough, but it’s very likely that she’s also a victim in this situation. She’s afraid to speak up.

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        Is it really that important that he cares about them or not? They’re thousands of miles away and whatever empathy he may spare them doesn’t compare to the role of the parent he feels he needs to be. Or at least that’s how I’ve read most of his scenes in the show.

        Like, he clearly has never been able to physically overpower or intimidate her in the way only a parent can, which means some of his toolbox as a parent has been gimped from the start. He’s been left with emotion and words.

        Her reaction to hearing they’re hurting a bit for money is to just effectively commit fraud, even if she can make legitimate materials. Like does she think the government or someone won’t notice that the day shift manager at a McDonald’s can just keep living like he did working at a significantly higher paying job?

        She clearly has not internalized any ideas or lessons, so it’s hard to not fully side with him. However well she may mean doesn’t matter if she continues to not look or learn from her mistakes. Because this can’t be the first time this kind of thing has happened. Not with her powers or her mindset.

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          Her reaction to hearing they’re hurting a bit for money is to just effectively commit fraud, even if she can make legitimate materials. Like does she think the government or someone won’t notice that the day shift manager at a McDonald’s can just keep living like he did working at a significantly higher paying job?

          I don’t think being able to transmute objects into gold is fraud. Its not like the objects turn back after an amount of time.

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    maybe if he was a better parent she would know that already, he’s acting like it’s her fault when her learning to be responsible was literally HIS RESPONSIBILITY