I’ve seen people talk about actors and artists that had a terrible time.

My own would be Anne Rice. She wrote Interview with the Vampire after her young daughter died of Leukemia. Then her husband suddenly died of a brain hemorrhage. I suspect her Christian, anti-fanfic phase was a result of mental illness and manipulation from the publishers, although I don’t think she ever apologized.

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    As a point of fact, nobody in the majority even has to form a club in order to set the social norms and mores for their society. We have a tradition of kindness and acceptance in the west, but it’s being interpreted falsely as a “right” of the minority groups to have anything they want, and that’s quite literally not part of the tradition.

    Demanding fair treatment because fairness is part of our social fabric is a far different thing than demanding fair treatment “or else”. As a cis male (adopting that nomenclature is a concession I’ve been making out of respect, because it was not part of my lexicon prior to trans activism), I’ve been told multiple times that I can’t be an ally to the lgbtq+ community because of how I was born. As soon as I heard that I was both crestfallen and terrified for the future of the community. That was 7 years ago and it’s only gotten worse.

    Please, just consider that I’m not saying I dislike you for who you are, but I think the way you’re engaging with this issue is counterproductive, and I can’t offer you support as you go about it.

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      but it’s being interpreted falsely as a “right” of the minority groups to have anything they want, and that’s quite literally not part of the tradition

      Those “anything” we want being the right to live without being harrassed, assaulted or murdered. The right to get married. The right to form families. The right to medical care to address our needs. The right to not be discriminated against in housing or work environments.

      You phrase it as if we’re threatening people, but all we want is to live a normal life in dignity, like everyone else. If that is “or else” to you, then it seems to me that you’ve already made up your mind about us.

      And you’re still not acknowledging that the LGB Alliance was created by cis and heterosexual people. They formed an organization so they could tell us what we should want. They pretend to care about our rights but they won’t even listen to us and the organizations we already have.

      I’ve been told multiple times that I can’t be an ally to the lgbtq+ community because of how I was born.

      Being an ally is about your actions, not about your identity. I don’t care that you’re cis, that doesn’t impact my opinion.

      The thing that makes me consider you not an ally? The way you speak about us. The way you don’t acknowledge the cis het misinformation and propaganda organization called LGB Alliance trying to splinter our community and NOT SPEAKING FOR US.

      If you seriously intend to be an ally, then I would highly suggest that you reflect on your attitudes about us and listen to what we actually want. If our desires to live in safety and dignity, to form families and access medical care and not be discriminated against, is too much for you… then frankly, I don’t think you value fairness at all.

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        Yeah, at this point I’m not an ally to trans activists. As I’ve said repeatedly, I don’t approve of your tactics, so I don’t support your movement. You’re too angry to see that most of us are compassionate to your feelings, and all we’re asking is that you give the same respect to ours as we all try to figure this out together. Nobody “cis het” has to do anything to splinter you away from other groups. Your anger and hatred is doing that all on its own.

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          I’m guessing you’re engaging in bad faith, so I am done here. I can’t explain your nonsensical statements any other way.