First of all, I wasn’t a huge fan of the fight. As someone who hasn’t read the comics and knows next to nothing about where the show will go, I still thought the fight was a lot less brutal than it could’ve been, especially after all the hype from Kirkman saying it would be bigger than anything in Season 1. I still enjoyed it, but it wasn’t a very fitting mid-season finale.

I fully reject the argument that the Viltrumites were made to “look weak” by the show-runners. The main argument seems to be that Mark took one of them out after being fucked up by other less powerful creatures before he was brought to Omni-Man, like the Atlantis Beast and the Maulers. They then say that he only started “winning” when Omni-Man told him to stop holding back and that he was “fighting like he was still on Earth”.

By this logic, we can assume that Mark holds back on Earth, since he doesn’t want to be a killer like his father. It’s only when Mark truly wishes to kill someone that he really feels capable of beating a Viltrumite, and he still fails at this. But the one thing I hear NO ONE talking about is that the Viltrumites were actually the ones holding back. They were very interested in keeping both Nolan and Mark alive: Nolan to bring back and imprison for questioning, and Mark to task him with preparing Earth for the Viltrumite invasion since they seemingly can’t expend any other forces. Nolan fucks his Viltrumite opponent up out of pure seethe and rage, not to mention that he is clearly a stronger Viltrumite than most and has probably done this countless times. Mark fucks his Viltrumite up because she clearly has less of an invested interest in killing him. She seems far more interested in the fact that Nolan had a son that harboured similarly strong powers despite not being from Viltrum. Their goal was probably never to kill both Invincible and Omni-Man, whereas they were fighting to kill both Viltrumites.

If you need any more convincing on the superiority and overall brutality of the Viltrumites, look no further than Ep3 where Allen gets annihilated. He’s established as a powerful character, and is clearly the Coalition’s current best chance at beating the Viltrumites, and he gets absolutely steamrolled. That scene was insanely effective in communicating the power of the Viltrum empire, as they can just stroll up to their enemy’s gates, demolish their only hope, and leave unharmed.

Response to this post in particular.

  • solrac137@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    The only problem I find with your argument is that Thula was going to slice Marks’s neck until Nolan intervened.

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      1 year ago

      If we look at the injuries that these frickers can sustain, Mark probably would’ve lived even if she did that. Incapacitated fosho, taken on a stretcher.

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      1 year ago

      Another thing is their focus on cruelty, mark hesitating and showing mercy is to then a very week trait, thus must die

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      1 year ago

      Yeah Mark was for sure free to kill and the Viltrumites present their figured/exclaim that it be trial by fire, he’s wins, conscripted, he can’t fight and dies, wasn’t worth it to begin with

    • RhysieB27@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Wasn’t Thula’s attitude “if I can kill you this easily, you don’t deserve to live”? So the fact that she was trying to kill Mark doesn’t have to mean she was trying particularly hard. In fact she visibly changed gear once or twice during the fight.

    • KillaMike24@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Yea from that fight I thought mark would have been dead I’m minutes if Omni man wasn’t there. It felt obvious he was the strongest of the 4 and mark the weakest so he was always supporting him. It was Marks first real fight him not dying is literally the best he could have hoped for