Personally I think Honey and Joseph Sugarmen take the cake for this one. I mean the poor lady was manipulated into getting a lobotomy for crying out loud (before you tell me about how times were different back then blah blah blah, I’m well aware,this is just what I think).
Close second would be Sarah Lynn and Bojack for obvious reasons.
PC’s mother and her kids (weird how none of them were in contact w her despite her having 5!). Her daughter had a miscarriage and her response was “how dare you take away MY meal ticket like this, what’d you do?!”
Absolutely. PC’s mother was such a toxic person, getting mad at her daughter for wanting a better life.
When the hell did PC’s mom have 120 kids?! /s
Beatrice and Butterscotch
I personally think Bojacks parents relationship was more toxic than Honey and Joseph.
Honey and Joseph were toxic, but it was more because of the mores of the day that he didn’t want to deal with her grief or mental illness. Obviously it’s horrible he had her lobotomised, but in their day that was the legit doctor recommended treatment for what she had (extreme depression). It’s not like he necessarily knew what she’d be like afterwards, there was no google back in the day so if the doctor told him it was the best thing for her then I don’t think he can be blamed for having it done. It also seems like it wasn’t against her will - she begged him for help.
Before Crackerjacks death they seemed to have a loving and affectionate relationship. The death of a child is a massive blow and many relationships that were healthy beforehand don’t survive it even in the modern day.
By comparison, Beatrice and her husband (his name escapes me) hated eachother even when everything was “good.” Like they were nice to eachother when they first met, but it’s shown that as soon as Bojack is born they start hating eachother. By the time Bojack is a child they’re openly antagonistic, even though there’s nothing majorly “wrong” with their lives (like there was with Beatrice’s parents after Crackerjack died). Beatrice even jokes (or seriously alludes) to hiding his heart medication.
So yeah I think Beatrice’s relationship was more toxic than Joseph and Honeys.
I get your vision. At least Joseph and Honey sort of had a reason rather then Beatrice and Butterscotch were just unprepared teenagers. I wouldn’t go as far as saying there relationship was “happy” before the death of Cracker Jack. Definitely beyond toxic, but I guess times were different back then. Another good relationship I was thinking of was Joseph and Beatrice. That whole thing with burning all her things traumatized her till she died (literally). Not to mention him threating Beatrice with a lobotomy, “you don’t want to end up like yout mother, now”.
Vincent Adultman and his son seem to have a terrible relationship. They can’t even be in the same room together.
Bojack literally said to PC that he wants, and I Quote, A sex Mommy. Their relationship got better towards the end, but at the beginning of the show it was beyond fucked
Todd and Bojack
this sub’s relationship with the show
Bojack and Princess Carolyn, the ultimate comparison of toxic codependency lmao
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