Maybe the plague of beetles at the wedding was a sign they should have heeded?

Yeah I just don’t get this couple at all. Why is she interested in him? He certainly doesn’t seem interested in her! It doesn’t seem like they have anything in common, he doesn’t like what she’s into and she doesn’t like him.

Yeah I just don’t get this couple at all. Why is she interested in him? He certainly doesn’t seem interested in her! It doesn’t seem like they have anything in common, he doesn’t like what she’s into and she doesn’t like him.

Am I the only one who thinks Jasmine’s main problem is her wild mood swings not her (maybe) lack of skills or ability to speak English? I actually think she seems like a pretty intelligent woman, it sounds like she had a respectable teaching career in Panama, and I thinks she speaks (and understands) English more than well enough to get a lot of jobs.

But she also seems to have an almost pathological insecurity, which her explanation about her Dad leaving her at age 3 and making it clear he not only wanted nothing to do with her but that he regretted being her father, does help explain. I think the issue is that she seemed to have never worked through these issues psychologically and it affects her to this day.

Her increasing obsession with plastic surgery is obviously fueled by this …she’d rather risk Gino’s wrath and spend the money he gives her to buy a wedding dress plus take a “loan” from her ex, than not get butt implants. She sobs uncontrollably about how “ugly” she is even with Gino’s reassurances that he loves her just as she is without any surgeries.

In addition she has irrational jealousy and out of control rages, and she overshares details of her sex life that nobody wants to hear about.

And all of this is documented forever on tv for any potential employer to easily see. I think alone makes her “unmarketable” for any careers except OnlyFans and similar work. She will be forever be without money because any she does make she’ll spend on plastic surgeries. It seems like a sad vicious cycle we can all see happening…

I agree I think this is a cultural difference. And I don’t necessarily even think using the word “sacrifice” for pregnancy is wrong, IF both people view it that way. I think if Shekinah wanted to get pregnant and have a baby for Sarper’s sake that would be fine, but she’s already said she has no intention of it. To force her (or guilt her) into getting pregnant because culturally she’s supposed to have babies is the problem.

I personally knew of a Middle Eastern family who held this view of pregnancy, and the woman kept getting pregnant back to back. Sadly her body couldn’t sustain the pregnancies and she had continual miscarriages, and several babies that were born but were premature and died after birth. They had one son that survived and after her 16th pregnancy doctors told her it would be impossible for her body to sustain any more pregnancies. It was suggested that her husband have a vasectomy, but that was never even entertained in their culture, or her having her tubes tied or hysterectomy either.

Shortly after she got pregnant again against everyone’s wishes, including hers, but she did it because culturally she was "supposed " to "sacrifice " to give her husband children. And she died during a miscarriage later in the pregnancy, but the main thing her family said was that at least she died doing the most honorable thing a woman can do which is be pregnant and have children. I can’t help but wonder if Sarper’s parents would feel the same way.

TJ totally knew that Kimberly would not only freak out but most likely never have come back to India in the first place to marry him.

I also think it’s disingenuous to say it’s Kimberly’s fault for not googling what she was getting into by marrying into TJ’s family. I think it’s pretty reasonable by most people’s standards to assume that if you are marrying someone from a foreign culture that they love you enough to fill you in on what will be expected when you are married. After all, Google can give you a "general " idea of what married life is like in India, but T.J. could of (should of) given her the whole story.

The way Sarper keeps talking about how Shekinah is "the one " and all his other conquests, I think he expects she should be super grateful he’s with her. And therefore should be happy and excited to give him a child if that’s what he wants because after all, he’s deigning to be with her!

And his parents seem to be feeding right into it. When his Mother said a woman should make the sacrifice to give her husband a baby even if she doesn’t want to, it was sickening. That attitude is so wrong, and Shekinah needs understand the culture she is dealing with. It sounds like the man is always right no matter what, and these women who marry into these cultures expecting to change them are so naive. Sarper decided he wants a child, she should give him one. Simple as that