Even before Eleanor’s redemption actually stuck she was nowhere as bad as BoJack. I mean, she did apparently sexually assault a mail man and attacked a mall Santa. But Eleanor didn’t use someone who looked dup to her as a possible father-figure for sex and then get her to use drugs and abandon her while she overdosed. Or almost murder a girlfriend rather than take drug addiction seriously. She’s closer to Diane’s level than BoJack’s.
Ultimately Eleanor’s redemption mostly stuck pretty early, while BoJack often relapsed back into being a shitty person. >!After Season 2 or so Eleanor managed to act with consistent and genuine selflessness. With huge moments like telling Chidi that Simone was his soul mate, and trying to redeem her parents to get them into the Good Place after she believed she was doomed. BoJack had a few moments of genuine kindness and self-sacrifice, but often scrapped it when he got his real fix, which was fame.!<
In terms of suffering more, Eleanor is probably lower, because ultimately she did have hope for most of the series. When she was alive, she seemed more comfortable blaming her parents for her own misdeeds when she was a bad person. For most of the show she had much better relationships with the supporting cast. >!In the finale, Eleanor got to go to actual heaven for countless eons with people she loved. Plus she tapped Chidi, and you gotta admit that guy was surprisingly jacked.!<
I’m not even sure that BoJack would be any better off after the finale, with the implication that he was going to go back into showbusiness, when only really toxic people would work with him. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he fell back into drugs and misogyny.
with the rest. I don’t find it ok to compare her to Diane. Diane was actively trying to help people andimprove the world.
That only applies to Eleanor in the first three episodes or so.
!Eleanor literally fixed the afterlife. In season 3, even when she knew she would never be able to get into the Good Place, she tried to help the mother hwo neglected her make it into the Good Place. Eleanor was even willing to give up Chidi for the greater good in season 4. She did a lot of things to improive the world, even when it made her feel awful.!<
Even before Eleanor’s redemption actually stuck she was nowhere as bad as BoJack. I mean, she did apparently sexually assault a mail man and attacked a mall Santa. But Eleanor didn’t use someone who looked dup to her as a possible father-figure for sex and then get her to use drugs and abandon her while she overdosed. Or almost murder a girlfriend rather than take drug addiction seriously. She’s closer to Diane’s level than BoJack’s.
Ultimately Eleanor’s redemption mostly stuck pretty early, while BoJack often relapsed back into being a shitty person. >!After Season 2 or so Eleanor managed to act with consistent and genuine selflessness. With huge moments like telling Chidi that Simone was his soul mate, and trying to redeem her parents to get them into the Good Place after she believed she was doomed. BoJack had a few moments of genuine kindness and self-sacrifice, but often scrapped it when he got his real fix, which was fame.!<
In terms of suffering more, Eleanor is probably lower, because ultimately she did have hope for most of the series. When she was alive, she seemed more comfortable blaming her parents for her own misdeeds when she was a bad person. For most of the show she had much better relationships with the supporting cast. >!In the finale, Eleanor got to go to actual heaven for countless eons with people she loved. Plus she tapped Chidi, and you gotta admit that guy was surprisingly jacked.!<
I’m not even sure that BoJack would be any better off after the finale, with the implication that he was going to go back into showbusiness, when only really toxic people would work with him. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he fell back into drugs and misogyny.
i thought the finale cemented that he’s getting better at least since season 4 and will continue, but i agree
with the rest. I don’t find it ok to compare her to Diane. Diane was actively trying to help people and
improve the world. She would never buy a product from Hank Hippopotamus.
That only applies to Eleanor in the first three episodes or so.