I’m not sure if this counts as a spoiler but I marked it as such, just in case. After watching the first ep of season 2 a few times, I started wondering why didn’t Angstrom ask Cecil for help with his project? He’s not doing anything evil/unethical. He has a good idea that could potentially work and solve a lot of issues across dimensions, so I don’t think Cecil would decline. They could then just use the Mauler twins in exchange for more comfortable prison environment and better food or cutting their sentence in half or something like that. The only reason I think Angstrom might not want this is because Cecil would have him " on a leash ", but even then, it’d be the path of least resistance and bloodshed. Is there something else I missed or a canonical reason I didn’t realize?
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Because angstrom is an asshole with a messiah complex. The mauler twins were right when they said “why don’t you just ask them questions”. He absolutely should have been putting experts of each dimension in contact with one another, but he had to be the one in complete control.
There’s no way a being who has access to the multiverse, and who already has at least 100 alternate universe versions of themself, does not have knowledge of who Cecil is.
He has seemingly unfettered access to viewing/visiting other dimensions in the multiverse. The only constraint he appears to possess is time/personal safety.
I conclude that he didn’t do so precisely because he knows Cecil too well from alternate dimensions, and realizes that any partnership with Cecil would be inherently too fraught with risk, violence, constraint and ideological conflict.
Because he black
Because Cecil and the government aren’t the good guys. They are just people trying to protect their self interests which just happen to be the planet we all live on. If you gave the government a cure for cancer, we’d either reject it because it’s not profitable, or we’ll charge out the ass for it.
Angstrom has seen enough versions of Earth’s government to know that giving them access to dimensional travel would be a nightmare.
“Why didn’t he leave himself at the mercy of the government?”
Cecil isn’t known for being honest. Second he said he’d free Mark. He’s desperate enough to get out, why would he lie to the one man trying to free him?
Angstrom is a pacifist, Cecil would either use his work for weapons or just wouldn’t trust him enough to work with him.
You haven’t been paying attention if you reeeally think Cecil would go along with Angstrom’s plan. Plus it’s very likely that Angstrom wasn’t even aware of Cecil’s existence given Cecil is an uber top secret dude who arguably operates outside of the government itself.
Angstrom is a megalomaniac. Neither version of him cared about helping the world nearly as much as getting the credit.
Pride and need for control apart, I don’t think Angstrom cares about Cecil and I don’t think Cecil would approve anyways.
Cecil and the GDA are not public figures. He probably didn’t know they existed.
Cecil mentioned during his introduction in the comics that not only is he so high up in the government that he doesn’t have an official rank, but he also does not even exist on public record anymore. Only the people who personally know him are aware of his existence. Also, if Cecil did not see a way to benefit from it himself, he likely would have never even considered assisting someone in their quest to gain that much knowledge.
Like the maulers
The Maulers are smarter than anything the government or Cecil are capable of.
But he wouldn’t have failed if he had the go ahead from Cecil/The GDA.
I might be wrong, but isn´t Cecils position a secret in and off itself? Maybe Angstrom just didn´t know about him, while the Maulers are pretty public figures as supervillains.
Alternatively, if he did know about Cecil, he surely doesn´t know about his personality and it is rather suspicious to ask for the help of two notorious supervillains. I know i wouldn´t believe Angstrom if he told me his plan and would instead suspect he´s doing it for selfish/take-over-the-world reasons and would make sure i have a way to take him out whenever i want before i´d help him. Also if Cecil declined measurements would be taken to ensure the Maulers were harder to free. Meaning Angstrom might have to hurt innocents and i think he´d be more opposed to that against non-supervillains (stranding the Maulers in an empty dimension could be considered justified).
Maybe he doesn’t know Cecil as a person exists but he definitely knows a lot about the organization and it’s goals. Considering he manage to walk right to where the super secret prison facility would be in another dimension and opened portals. He certainly didn’t just be like ‘Open a portal to the maulers’ he had to find where they are, where the prison is, how deep it is, what cells they were in down to the foot. Implies a lot of knowledge about Cecil’s organization.
I also think it’s hard to argue he doesn’t considering how much of his general knowledge of other dimensions revolves around Invincible himself and Cecil would be the primary force trying to stop him in any dimension he exists, as seen from woman Cecil with a captured Mark.
You bring up a really good point. I believe that Angstrom was aware of Cecil, since he said he was searching for someone to take on the mission of getting the machine to work, and only the Maulers had the necessary knowledge. It’d be weird if during his search he didn’t stumble upon robot, or some other figure connected to Cecil, or even Cecil himself.
As for whether Cecil would believe Angstrom or not, doesn’t really matter because of his powers. If he did ask Cecil, there’s a chance he believes him and helps him. If Cecil doesn’t believe him, Angstrom just opens another portal to a different dimension slightly different from the last one and it’s like he never asked Cecil in the first place. Though now that I’m saying this, maybe he did do that and that’s why we don’t see him trying to contact Cecil in his current dimension at the time. Fair enough
You’ve answered your own question here. Angstrom didn’t ask Cecil because Cecil doesn’t have the tech to download brains like that. Only the Maulers know how to do it.
We know for a fact he was working with Robot in that dimension we open S2, Eve and Immortal too(despite the fact we don’t see Immortal in the same place as them, he was fighting Invincible as a distraction).
Different Angstrom
Cecil would use Angstrom to search the multiverse for Viltrumite-killing weapons, not a cure for cancer.
In fact, its possible that Levy figured the government would try to stop him, or turn him into a lab rat.
In fact, its possible that Levy figured the government would try to stop him, or turn him into a lab rat.
!Which turns out to be apt, since being a lab rat becomes his final fate in Mohawk Mark’s universe before Robot puts him out of his misery!<