Viltrumites are weirdly vulnerable to piercing attacks in the show for some reason.
Nolan covers his eyes from regular bullets
Nolan feels physical pain from small arms fire surprise hitting his face
Allen survives over a dozen punches from Viltrumites but loses a limb from one chop and gets donutted by a spearhand
Nolan is barely if at all physically stronger than Lukan and still instantly kills him by just karate chopping his guts out
Obviously they’re not going to be getting fragged by a sniper or anything, but if it takes say one million “killing power” to smash their head open with a rock, it seems that it only takes one thousand to shear a hole in them with something pointy.
Viltrumites seem to be surprisingly vulnerable when it comes to surprise attacks, when they get their bearings they’re just fine, but things that they’d otherwise easily tank can visibly make them recoil so long as they catch them off guard.
Mark said when fighting darkwing “He felt that” and then clarified that it didn’t hurt. I think it’s more of product of viltrumites needing to be able to feel small things to have normal lives, the bullets aren’t going to physically damage him but they’re annoying.
In the first episode of the season he chops his hand through Robot and the metal is red hot. I just assumed something that durable moving at super speed is enough to cut through most things.
Humans are also weirdly vulnerable to piercing attacks. When you punch someone in the face, it doesn’t break the skin. When you poke them with a needle, they bleed. That’s just how surface pressure works.
It doesn’t matter how durable Viltrumite skin is, it’s still just matter and has to obey the laws of momentum. Hence why intense energy (like the nuke beam) does basically nothing while unexpected physical strikes are able to move them relatively easily. Sharp things just move nearby atoms in different directions, so it’s an issue of physical intermolecular bond strength rather than say, compressive strength or thermal conductivity.
Humans can’t karate chop each other’s entrails out.
Viltrumites are weirdly vulnerable to pointy things to a far greater degree than you’d expect from something of their durability. Anything of their durability, really.
This isn’t “human poked by other human with needle”, more “human’s skin is cut by the pressure of an ant walking on it”. If it was just a pressure thing then Nolan could’ve used his Lucan disembowelling strength to just give him skull fractures with every punch. Fingers aren’t knives or needles, and if you want to cut inches deep into flesh with them then you need a far higher amount of force than the owner of that flesh could generate with their own body.
Everything else I pretty much agree with, but the specific extent that Viltrumites are easily killed with pointy object vs brick is definitely not at all comparable to humans because poking actual literal holes in one another’s torso with our fingers isn’t a thing we can do in combat ever.
Sharp things just move nearby atoms in different directions, so it’s an issue of intermolecular bond strength rather than say, compressive strength or thermal conductivity.
Humans are not able to cut each other’s entrails out because we can’t apply enough force. My entire point is that the Viltrumites are ludicrously strong, but there’s an upper limit to how resistant skin can be to pointy things, so their strength outpaces their defense.
Do you mean tensile or shear strength?
No, I mean compressive strength. Blunt force strikes compress the target.
Humans are not able to cut each other’s entrails out because we can’t apply enough force. My entire point is that the Viltrumites are ludicrously strong, but there’s an upper limit to how resistant skin can be to pointy things, so their strength outpaces their defense.
What do you think this upper limit is exactly?
There’s an upper limit to how resistant bone can be to forceful things too but Viltrumites just ignore that by a factor of several million times. If their skin wasn’t already stronger than is possible for skin to be then they’d be blasting holes in each other by throwing punches anyway.
No, I mean compressive strength. Blunt force strikes compress the target.
No I’m asking about when you said intermolecular bond strength, because the only reason that should be relevant is if you’re trying to break apart the molecules that make their body up and turn chunks of them into elemental matter.
Ice has a higher intermolecular bond strength than iron but is still much easier to shoot holes in or cut open.
In comics and anime, a punch will almost always send you flying back but a stab will always pierce because an attack ‘bouncing off’ would be weird in a serious fight.
I noticed this too. Thula’s blade was tearing Mark apart just like BB’s claws. Blades/claws seem to be vulnerability to them,not exactly a weakness. Kinda like how Superman is vulnerable to magic, but not necessarily “weak” to it
Viltrumites also got pierced by rocks in this same episode but I’m gonna assume powerscalers will ignore that
Viltrumites are weirdly vulnerable to piercing attacks in the show for some reason.
Obviously they’re not going to be getting fragged by a sniper or anything, but if it takes say one million “killing power” to smash their head open with a rock, it seems that it only takes one thousand to shear a hole in them with something pointy.
Viltrumites seem to be surprisingly vulnerable when it comes to surprise attacks, when they get their bearings they’re just fine, but things that they’d otherwise easily tank can visibly make them recoil so long as they catch them off guard.
Mark said when fighting darkwing “He felt that” and then clarified that it didn’t hurt. I think it’s more of product of viltrumites needing to be able to feel small things to have normal lives, the bullets aren’t going to physically damage him but they’re annoying.
i found this part so weird he just casually swipes at him and his entire guts spill out lmao
If that was a move I had you would never catch me doing anything else lmao, I am spamming that shit 24/7.
You’d be predictable though
“God Damn it! He does this every fucking time!”
Yeah they need to nerf that in season / patch 2.2
In the first episode of the season he chops his hand through Robot and the metal is red hot. I just assumed something that durable moving at super speed is enough to cut through most things.
Humans are also weirdly vulnerable to piercing attacks. When you punch someone in the face, it doesn’t break the skin. When you poke them with a needle, they bleed. That’s just how surface pressure works.
It doesn’t matter how durable Viltrumite skin is, it’s still just matter and has to obey the laws of momentum. Hence why intense energy (like the nuke beam) does basically nothing while unexpected physical strikes are able to move them relatively easily. Sharp things just move nearby atoms in different directions, so it’s an issue of physical intermolecular bond strength rather than say, compressive strength or thermal conductivity.
Humans can’t karate chop each other’s entrails out.
Viltrumites are weirdly vulnerable to pointy things to a far greater degree than you’d expect from something of their durability. Anything of their durability, really.
This isn’t “human poked by other human with needle”, more “human’s skin is cut by the pressure of an ant walking on it”. If it was just a pressure thing then Nolan could’ve used his Lucan disembowelling strength to just give him skull fractures with every punch. Fingers aren’t knives or needles, and if you want to cut inches deep into flesh with them then you need a far higher amount of force than the owner of that flesh could generate with their own body.
Everything else I pretty much agree with, but the specific extent that Viltrumites are easily killed with pointy object vs brick is definitely not at all comparable to humans because poking actual literal holes in one another’s torso with our fingers isn’t a thing we can do in combat ever.
Do you mean tensile or shear strength?
Humans are not able to cut each other’s entrails out because we can’t apply enough force. My entire point is that the Viltrumites are ludicrously strong, but there’s an upper limit to how resistant skin can be to pointy things, so their strength outpaces their defense.
No, I mean compressive strength. Blunt force strikes compress the target.
What do you think this upper limit is exactly?
There’s an upper limit to how resistant bone can be to forceful things too but Viltrumites just ignore that by a factor of several million times. If their skin wasn’t already stronger than is possible for skin to be then they’d be blasting holes in each other by throwing punches anyway.
No I’m asking about when you said intermolecular bond strength, because the only reason that should be relevant is if you’re trying to break apart the molecules that make their body up and turn chunks of them into elemental matter.
Ice has a higher intermolecular bond strength than iron but is still much easier to shoot holes in or cut open.
They can’t move their limbs at super speed or have super strength either.
In comics and anime, a punch will almost always send you flying back but a stab will always pierce because an attack ‘bouncing off’ would be weird in a serious fight.
I noticed this too. Thula’s blade was tearing Mark apart just like BB’s claws. Blades/claws seem to be vulnerability to them,not exactly a weakness. Kinda like how Superman is vulnerable to magic, but not necessarily “weak” to it
I did notice the show focused on the cuts but I didn’t get why. Maybe this will get used in the future
Nobody tell him!
AHHHHH!!! I know you’re doing this for my own good, but I can’t wait a few months
I thought that hit on Lukan was with a piece of the stalactites or something.
It looked like a slash.
Not to mention how Red rush caused internal bleeding with his punches.
The rocks didn’t pierce his skin.
Omni man literally takes a rock and drives it right through Lucan
I think the Omni-Man on the other side of the rock is doing a shit ton of the work
The rocks are stronger then the black hole then 🗿
Viltrumites have Bullseye-level abilities. Where they can turn anything into a deadly weapon.