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  • Humans are not able to cut each other’s entrails out because we can’t apply enough force. My entire point is that the Viltrumites are ludicrously strong, but there’s an upper limit to how resistant skin can be to pointy things, so their strength outpaces their defense.

    What do you think this upper limit is exactly?

    There’s an upper limit to how resistant bone can be to forceful things too but Viltrumites just ignore that by a factor of several million times. If their skin wasn’t already stronger than is possible for skin to be then they’d be blasting holes in each other by throwing punches anyway.

    No, I mean compressive strength. Blunt force strikes compress the target.

    No I’m asking about when you said intermolecular bond strength, because the only reason that should be relevant is if you’re trying to break apart the molecules that make their body up and turn chunks of them into elemental matter.

    Ice has a higher intermolecular bond strength than iron but is still much easier to shoot holes in or cut open.


  • Humans can’t karate chop each other’s entrails out.

    Viltrumites are weirdly vulnerable to pointy things to a far greater degree than you’d expect from something of their durability. Anything of their durability, really.

    This isn’t “human poked by other human with needle”, more “human’s skin is cut by the pressure of an ant walking on it”. If it was just a pressure thing then Nolan could’ve used his Lucan disembowelling strength to just give him skull fractures with every punch. Fingers aren’t knives or needles, and if you want to cut inches deep into flesh with them then you need a far higher amount of force than the owner of that flesh could generate with their own body.

    Everything else I pretty much agree with, but the specific extent that Viltrumites are easily killed with pointy object vs brick is definitely not at all comparable to humans because poking actual literal holes in one another’s torso with our fingers isn’t a thing we can do in combat ever.

    Sharp things just move nearby atoms in different directions, so it’s an issue of intermolecular bond strength rather than say, compressive strength or thermal conductivity.

    Do you mean tensile or shear strength?





  • Viltrumites are weirdly vulnerable to piercing attacks in the show for some reason.

    • Nolan covers his eyes from regular bullets
    • Nolan feels physical pain from small arms fire surprise hitting his face
    • Allen survives over a dozen punches from Viltrumites but loses a limb from one chop and gets donutted by a spearhand
    • Nolan is barely if at all physically stronger than Lukan and still instantly kills him by just karate chopping his guts out

    Obviously they’re not going to be getting fragged by a sniper or anything, but if it takes say one million “killing power” to smash their head open with a rock, it seems that it only takes one thousand to shear a hole in them with something pointy.



  • Situationally sure, the Emperor has been almost beaten to death by a =<30 foot ork and knocked down by something that just vaguely dents the hull of a ship.

    He has absurdly powerful psychic abilities but if he doesn’t get time to build them up they’re not going to help him much, most of his fighting is just him hitting things physically with a sword and the only time he’s ever flash-obliterated a physically stronger opponent to my knowledge was when Horus tagged in to distract them for him to build up his power (this was the ork mentioned above).

    If Nolan or Mark tries to fuck around and talk then he’s getting lobotomised/forcibly heart-attacked/sucked into hell but if he just flies in and starts throwing hands then there’s not much the Emperor can really do because Viltrumites in general are thousands to millions of times stronger than him.