Omni man resisted the gravitational pull of a black hole.
it’s not really impressive because he didnt reach the event horizon. from the distance he was at, it was basically just a normal gravitational force. like a star for example.
I was thinking this lmao they’re gunna act like he was in the center of a black hole and flew out with ease instead of barely in it’s pull at all. Gunna dtart hearing “Omniman is multiversal” from those delusional turds
everything is outerversal with power scaling smh
“Darkwing no diffs with prep time”
DanCo: “a black hole. A FREAKING BLACK HOLE.”
Viltrumites also got pierced by rocks in this same episode but I’m gonna assume powerscalers will ignore that
Viltrumites have Bullseye-level abilities. Where they can turn anything into a deadly weapon.
Not to mention how Red rush caused internal bleeding with his punches.
The rocks didn’t pierce his skin.
Omni man literally takes a rock and drives it right through Lucan
I think the Omni-Man on the other side of the rock is doing a shit ton of the work
Viltrumites are weirdly vulnerable to piercing attacks in the show for some reason.
- Nolan covers his eyes from regular bullets
- Nolan feels physical pain from small arms fire surprise hitting his face
- Allen survives over a dozen punches from Viltrumites but loses a limb from one chop and gets donutted by a spearhand
- Nolan is barely if at all physically stronger than Lukan and still instantly kills him by just karate chopping his guts out
Obviously they’re not going to be getting fragged by a sniper or anything, but if it takes say one million “killing power” to smash their head open with a rock, it seems that it only takes one thousand to shear a hole in them with something pointy.
Nolan is barely if at all physically stronger than Lukan and still instantly kills him by just karate chopping his guts out
i found this part so weird he just casually swipes at him and his entire guts spill out lmao
If that was a move I had you would never catch me doing anything else lmao, I am spamming that shit 24/7.
You’d be predictable though
Yeah they need to nerf that in season / patch 2.2
“God Damn it! He does this every fucking time!”
In the first episode of the season he chops his hand through Robot and the metal is red hot. I just assumed something that durable moving at super speed is enough to cut through most things.
I thought that hit on Lukan was with a piece of the stalactites or something.
It looked like a slash.
Viltrumites seem to be surprisingly vulnerable when it comes to surprise attacks, when they get their bearings they’re just fine, but things that they’d otherwise easily tank can visibly make them recoil so long as they catch them off guard.
Mark said when fighting darkwing “He felt that” and then clarified that it didn’t hurt. I think it’s more of product of viltrumites needing to be able to feel small things to have normal lives, the bullets aren’t going to physically damage him but they’re annoying.
In comics and anime, a punch will almost always send you flying back but a stab will always pierce because an attack ‘bouncing off’ would be weird in a serious fight.
I noticed this too. Thula’s blade was tearing Mark apart just like BB’s claws. Blades/claws seem to be vulnerability to them,not exactly a weakness. Kinda like how Superman is vulnerable to magic, but not necessarily “weak” to it
I did notice the show focused on the cuts but I didn’t get why. Maybe this will get used in the future
Nobody tell him!
AHHHHH!!! I know you’re doing this for my own good, but I can’t wait a few months
Humans are also weirdly vulnerable to piercing attacks. When you punch someone in the face, it doesn’t break the skin. When you poke them with a needle, they bleed. That’s just how surface pressure works.
It doesn’t matter how durable Viltrumite skin is, it’s still just matter and has to obey the laws of momentum. Hence why intense energy (like the nuke beam) does basically nothing while unexpected physical strikes are able to move them relatively easily. Sharp things just move nearby atoms in different directions, so it’s an issue of physical intermolecular bond strength rather than say, compressive strength or thermal conductivity.
Humans can’t karate chop each other’s entrails out.
Viltrumites are weirdly vulnerable to pointy things to a far greater degree than you’d expect from something of their durability. Anything of their durability, really.
This isn’t “human poked by other human with needle”, more “human’s skin is cut by the pressure of an ant walking on it”. If it was just a pressure thing then Nolan could’ve used his Lucan disembowelling strength to just give him skull fractures with every punch. Fingers aren’t knives or needles, and if you want to cut inches deep into flesh with them then you need a far higher amount of force than the owner of that flesh could generate with their own body.
Everything else I pretty much agree with, but the specific extent that Viltrumites are easily killed with pointy object vs brick is definitely not at all comparable to humans because poking actual literal holes in one another’s torso with our fingers isn’t a thing we can do in combat ever.
Sharp things just move nearby atoms in different directions, so it’s an issue of intermolecular bond strength rather than say, compressive strength or thermal conductivity.
Do you mean tensile or shear strength?
Humans can’t karate chop each other’s entrails out.
They can’t move their limbs at super speed or have super strength either.
Humans are not able to cut each other’s entrails out because we can’t apply enough force. My entire point is that the Viltrumites are ludicrously strong, but there’s an upper limit to how resistant skin can be to pointy things, so their strength outpaces their defense.
Do you mean tensile or shear strength?
No, I mean compressive strength. Blunt force strikes compress the target.
Humans are not able to cut each other’s entrails out because we can’t apply enough force. My entire point is that the Viltrumites are ludicrously strong, but there’s an upper limit to how resistant skin can be to pointy things, so their strength outpaces their defense.
What do you think this upper limit is exactly?
There’s an upper limit to how resistant bone can be to forceful things too but Viltrumites just ignore that by a factor of several million times. If their skin wasn’t already stronger than is possible for skin to be then they’d be blasting holes in each other by throwing punches anyway.
No, I mean compressive strength. Blunt force strikes compress the target.
No I’m asking about when you said intermolecular bond strength, because the only reason that should be relevant is if you’re trying to break apart the molecules that make their body up and turn chunks of them into elemental matter.
Ice has a higher intermolecular bond strength than iron but is still much easier to shoot holes in or cut open.
The rocks are stronger then the black hole then 🗿
Someone did the math and he withstood the same amount of force required to move mt. Everest 6 inches per second.
Mf using inches per second lmao
6 inches per second squared? 6 inches per second doesn’t make much sense as force is mass time acceleration, not mass times speed.
I’m not an astrophysicist, or any kind of expert in physics for that matter, but as I understand it a black hole has a certain boundary called the Event Horizon, the point at which gravity becomes so strong that nothing can escape once this threshold is reached.
Assuming (and we have evidence to suggest this) Invincible approximates real life physics, Omniman was “only” resisting the natural gravitational force a black hole of that solar mass would apply to an object outside the Event Horizon.
Still a crazy feat, but perhaps not as impressive as some people will think.
Well said
Also, another thing that people don’t understand is that writers are not astrophysicists. They’re not calculating light year distances between planets to calculate the speed. They just want their show/comic to look cool. There’s no point in trying to use real world physics to analyze characters strength, endurance or speed
Right!! I am genuinely sick of people being angry over details like this one just because the writers didn’t research some physics for a moment that lasts a few seconds and isn’t really that significant lol
Also completely ignores the weird time stuff that would happen to him.
Finally people with common sense!
Yeah. The fact that Nolan flew to a different star system in a few weeks is mind-blowing. He can fly FTL. Probably tens of thousands of lightyears per second.
Trying to physics that is a fools game.
All i´m hearing is viltrumites (and other beings capable of interstelar travel on their own) can subconciously create wormholes or fold space. /J
“Mark, it’s millions of miles and you don’t know the direction”
Millions, sure. A light year is 6 trillion miles. He’s not wrong, but he’s under-selling the distance by quite a lot.
Maybe planets are just closer together in the universe
Jupiter is about 370 million miles from Earth, on average. Slightly different from the “one or two galaxies away” Mark was told.
I’m pretty sure everyone is aware of this. If we saw Omni-man resist a faster-than-light gravitational pull then it would just be bad writing and a plot hole. We don’t know how big the black hole is nor how far away it is, so all we know is that it wasn’t strong enough to rip the Thraxan ship apart.
I mean, it’s not really that insane. The same clip shows some random Thraxan ship surviving the gravitational pull from a similar distance and when Nolan’s letting it draw him in he’s visibly only moving a few inches per second.
He was just far enough away that it wasn’t super deadly yet, dude was planning on killing himself by diving in lol.
Nolan’s letting it draw him in he’s visibly only moving a few inches per second.
This is the big thing here, the gravity at that location appeared to be weaker than on earth where you’d accelerate about 10 meters per second.
which means he’s not even close to it
bruh battleboarding is died
I thought they established that viltumites are more immune to gravity than stronger than it
Wait when did they establish that?
When teaching Mark how to fly/punch Nolan says something to the effect of “We can move freely through space”
I dunno if this means immune to gravity but I can see where that idea would come into play based off thah
Ah, I always took that to mean Viltrumites just generate force that lets them accelerate by basically using telekinesis on themselves. They’re “immune to gravity” because the acceleration required to achieve a supersonic terminal velocity is dozens of times stronger than earth’s gravity so they can easily overpower it.
just being able to get to another planet at all is crazy if we take it seriously
the closest star to earth is 4.3 light-years away. omni-man manages to fly to another planet in about a week. do the math on how fast he’d have to travel
The closest star to earth is only about 8 light minutes away
Okay well the second closest star.
Also, Nuolzot says Thraxa is a couple GALAXIES away
We’d have to see
Indeed. I mean Nolan was struggling against Lucan’s strength them somehow he can gut him with his fingers?
Then he impales him with a rock? So they are softer inside than outside?
But then any blunt strike should make them mush internally?
Ugh, better not try powerscaling at all.
I am very happy with this last episode, and would love a pre namek planet Vegeta vs Viltrium war.
Physics don’t work the same or he would have come back so far in the future it’s not funny.
IMO featless. Real life black hole neg diff solos ez