In my opinion that is

Most will still thoroughly enjoy it as it is the most eventful episode yet, but as someone who holds the comic very dearly I can’t stop feeling there were plenty issues and missed oportunities

  1. Nowl-Ahn

Pretty minor, but damn it’s a missed opportunity. This was discussed on another post, it would’ve been so cool if they kept this detail and the viltrumites refered to him with this pronunciation throughtout the whole series, this kind of stuff adds to the world-building and strengthens it and it’s a shame they didn’t take full advantage of the audio-visual medium they’re now on

https://preview.redd.it/1pcd4fx4t72c1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=074a706c64ed685b795761f0ec5e6887a48c7b8d

  1. The pacing

I didn’t have a problem at all with this with the first 3 episodes, but on this one I got borderline irritated. The developments on Debbie’s grief, Eve’s self-discovernment journey and Donald’s “mystery”(which is exclusive to the show) are important, but I don’t think they had much place in this episode. They’re very slow paced scenes and with a mood that doesn’t really quite mesh well with an all-out brawl in another galaxy for the fate of the planet, with those stakes I couldn’t really bother with Killcannon of all people suddenly getting the spotlight. All things considered, the whole Thraxa could’ve filled the entire episode just fine, but if they weren’t going to do that then it would’ve better to break it off with the Lizard League/Sequids simultaneous attack(which now I bet it’s gonna happen next episode, alongside Mark’s return), and that’s why so many people were theorizing about that, because it made so much more sense. An action packed episode featuring all our current heroes barely coming out on top of their respective conflicts would’ve been a great way to end the mid-season

https://preview.redd.it/6qu6raqf182c1.png?width=591&format=png&auto=webp&s=c188da3288787921b8a1ccaa39f74928c097bbc0

Ignore Mark here lol

While the recreation was cool, another missed great detail is the fact they fought from night to day, showcasing the absurd endurance viltrumites have

  1. The many great interactions we missed

https://preview.redd.it/9enzr8te582c1.png?width=580&format=png&auto=webp&s=3eb023c414b6a2c1852d9448c6dc2b2b18d81f56

So many show-onlies were theorizing this might’ve actually not been Nolan, why not add this scene that plays into that ? It’s also a good showcase of Mark’s exponential growth as now Nolan actually feels his attacks

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Mark getting a cheap shot on Lucan and running away was pretty amusing

This was tense AF. Any kind of relief you could’ve gotten of Mark becoming stronger fades away when you realize he’s still hopeless against a single viltrumite, creating an overall dreadful scene

Another great line we missed in the show

Just everything about this interaction was great. It also debunks Art’s comment about Nolan lmao, those muscles and skill didn’t come from nowhere

Gotta give it to the show, they did the scene pretty good, but man why did they miss the bit where he questions Mark’s way ? Ambiguous morality is a BIG part of what makes Invincible stand out

Besides missing a viltrumite insight on war, it’s a shame we won’t have this great parallelism as Mark eventually is the one overpowering a viltrumite out of air

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Finally this, man Nolan’s one-liner game was on point during this

Sorry if some of this stuff seems very trivial, but that’s just how I feel as someone very passionate about this comic, perhaps you could change my mind

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  • JohnnyAK907@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    It also debunks Art’s comment about Nolan lmao

    So much this. It was a good thing for a friend to say, but Art basically calling Debbie stronger than Nolan and how she went through so much more right before the man got his spine snapped made me laugh. Don’t get me wrong, Debbie has a lot of shit to deal with too, but it’s a different shade of shit that is no more or less stinky than Mark or Nolan’s pile.
    A better writer would have had Art validating her emotions and commending her strength without diminishing Nolan or blowing smoke up her ass. Wait, a better writer already did that, because that’s how it goes down in the comic.

    • nixahmose@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I think you’re kinda missing the context of the whole situation. This is a guy trying to cheer up a friend whose dealing with severe depression after(from his perspective) his former friend/her ex-husband turned out to be a genocidal maniac who admitted to viewing Debbie as nothing more than a pet and murdered thousands of innocent people just to make a point to his son, of whom he almost savagely beat to death. Art has no reason to be respectful of Nolan and every reason to diminish him as being nothing more than an asshole, especially when Debbie is in so much pain and questioning her life’s worth.

      It should also be noted that Nolan was rarely ever in that much danger while on Earth. The closest he ever got to dying was his fight against the Guardians of the Globe, which even then he managed to curb stomp most of them despite them being the most powerful heroes on the planet.

    • Lofi_Fade@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Are you actually bothered that Arty insulted the mass murderer Nolan to his conflicted and grieving ex-wife? He is also right, Nolan was too weak to understand himself before killing thousands of people. Only after destroying everything he actually cared about and starting again does he realise how badly he fucked up. Arty was clearly talking about strength of character, which Debbie has but Omni-Man is struggling to reach. Even in his second chance to make things right he strangles Mark and curses his socially prescribed weakness. Nolan is a strong viltrumite, but a weak human.