I think the biggest issue with Bojack is he kept repeating the cycle of toxicity throughout his life. Like getting the job as a professor in Michigan was his big break but then he again sabotaged it, at which point I was a bit tired and almost felt the show was not freeing him because then it stops the show.

He could’ve just let the past go and accept his problems to himself. But he again went full out looking for validation from others. With the interviewer he was acting all hopeless and like a victim as if he wasn’t the one who insisted to have the interview on the 1st place.

So there was a time in my life I was acting in a very self-destructive manner and comparing my life with Bojack’s and sometimes blaming it all on my past even, not taking responsibility but Bojack did take responsibility at some point just was supposed to let it go and do good in the present – which is what I’m doing right now or aspiring to.

But maybe for Bojack there was always the calling, people set out against his failing and him responding to it for something to prove because he has a bigger audience.

So Ig in the end why most of us might not be Bojack is because we can’t afford to be Bojack, we won’t have people like Princess Carolyn who would make excuses for us, defending us with PR tactics and whatnot. And we might even have less enemies around as we don’t usually work in such a cutthroat environment as Hollywoo.

Truth is exposing Bojack only sells magazines and brings views, but does it actually do anybody much of any good?

  • HolyDevill@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Who were bojack’s “enemies”? And how do they relate to the horrible things bojack did? Angela did bullshit him, but it isn’t uncommon to be bullshitted by people you work with. Either way, not an excuse.
    The exposing of bojack is a consequence of his shitty actions, like a robber who gets caught and goes to jail, so yes, it does some good.

    Saying people can’t be Bojack because of their environment feels like your reducing Bojack’s accountability, but I personally prefer Todds approach: “It’s you”

  • Redwood829@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I think many of us are bojack for less bojack reasons?

    I drink too much. More than you are thinking, more than most people you know. But there are others out there that drink me under the table, …if it was a competition. Im just saying im on the list, but not at the top.

    I want to slow down. But i dont. I made it till 5 today, but the plan was no wine, so it was a failure.

    Its because, we all cant, not be us. We can try hard, and we can change. Bojack didnt really, and most of us dont. But we all have the ability to change, and we just dont… to the recovered addict, good on you. You did great, most never make that change.

    Will i ever be bojack bad? Who says im already not? Lol, but for real, no i dont have the money to just get out of legal trouble and stuff. But that doesnt mean im not ashamed/embarassed of myself. It doesnt mean i dont want to change, and that i havent tried a million times, and i just keep failing.

    We are bojack because bojack is a person! Bojack is not danny tanner, or doug heffernan, or tim ‘the tool man’ taylor, or bill ‘rape em while their out’ cosby. Those characters werent people, they were always perfect tv ppl. Not in in real life with bill, but his character was great, very few flaws. … Not relatable to me.

    Bojack fucks up! I fuck up! Many of bojacks fuck ups are stupid and dont matter. He has several big ones that matter. I am less of those mistakes. But the whole show is NOT him at prom with kids. Its him and muffins. Its him and the doll over the balcony. Its him stopping at the bar rather than whatever else. Its him not giving hollyhock time when she is with him. Its him fucking up with PC, diane, the last girl.

    All that is me man!!! I do that shit. I wish i didnt, but i do. At 5 today i wrestled for awhile, then glass of wine… im not a rapist, im not a drug addict, i probably am an alcoholic. I am not so many things bojack is, yet i am EVERYTHING bojack is.

  • LegendOfDylan@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Nobody here has the opportunity to be Bojack, a large portion of his character and the way it develops is because he’s rich and famous. A couple quotes to consider:

    “Diane, I am a famous — everyone gives me everything I want all the time. It is an existential curse, but a huge day-to-day convenience.”

    “I’m at a place right now where I never need to grow as a person or rise to an occasion because I can constantly just surround myself with sycophants and enablers until I die tragically young.”

    The trappings of fortune and fame are a huge factor in character development.

  • Doggosrthebest24@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    We’re not like bojack because we’re not rich. We do shitty things, but can’t exactly disappear for weeks without getting fired or buy boats. Also, I hope most people don’t try to have sex with 16 year olds when they’re fifty. So we might be as bad as him, but not as bad stuff. I’m self sabotaging, self loathing, and crazy. Abonnement issues and sometimes manipulative(I’m trying very hard not to be and don’t know why I still am). But I try so much harder than he has, so hopefully I’m not as bad