This is something I’ve been worrying about for a while. I feel like I would love for Invincible to go on forever, but knowing from brief research just how long and crazy the comics get, I feel like the showrunners might not wrap it up in a concise manner.

Kirkman obviously has been through this before with TWD. It went on for far too long and everyone got really bored of it after a while. Invincible potentially might do the same and I think there’s at least one good reason why it might do that: the hesitancy to kill off major characters.

Now before any comic readers come for my throat, I know that the show obviously isn’t afraid to kill major characters, but I also know how fucking crazy it is that many of them get beat within an inch of their lives, survive and fully recover. A good example of this is Allen, who I know comes back after hearing some minor spoilers. His beatdown was very effective in showing the brutality of the Viltrumites, and the fact he survives is fine and all but how many more times will the show do that for big players? Any regular watcher will take one look at Allen and say “yeah, he’s dead” but then the story pivots and he’s actually alive again. Same with Immortal, same with Monster Girl, same with Black Samson, Donald too I suppose.

It’s a sort of sense of consequence that might just fall away after a while. I can see an average viewer getting really fucking annoyed by it if they keep it up. You could be watching a really fucking awesome fight but feel nothing because you know there’s potential that whoever gets “killed” will probably come back anyway. I’m getting very worried about it more now that there’s a multiverse angle, which also might be a huge factor in a decline.

I know Kirkman did multiverses before they were popular in the comics, but they’re being adapted into the show right as they’re falling out of favour with audiences. Everyone’s seen it already and I can see some huge eye-rolls happening when it becomes really important later down the line.

So all this really begs the question: how long can the show keep doing this without getting repetitive, annoying or just generally boring to the general audience? We all love the first season for good reason, but has all the new and fun stuff that made it so special already been shown? TWD is a huge example of this happening, as AMC filtered Frank Darabont out of the project after a glorious Season 1 that showed audiences a new take on the Zombie genre all to give Kirkman more control on the project as he said he’d do it for a smaller budget than Darabont wanted.

Another recent example is The Boys. It’s only on its third season and already quite a few people are getting irritated by the fact they just kinda keep doing the same thing over and over again without anyone ever suffering consequences apart from whoever the newbie for that season is. The Season 4 trailer didn’t look too promising considering Black Noir is back and there’s a Stormfront regen that will inevitably bite the bullet by the end of the season. As much as I enjoy that show, it does get pretty stupid when you consider all the times Homelander could’ve killed Butcher or Hughie or anyone without the massive public outcry he so fears.

This is a general question and I mean no animosity to anyone that loved the comics all the way through. How much do you trust Kirkman not to overdo it so he can tell his huge winding story that is likely way too long for 4-5 seasons of television?

    • I-WANT-SLOOTS@alien.topB
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      9 months ago

      Right? One Piece isn’t even finished and there’s 1100 issues of that so far. Simpsons is at what, season 34? Invincible can probably finish out in 6-7 seasons.

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    9 months ago

    Fatigue only happens when something is bad or becomes bad. A lot of people also give in to “sunk cost fallacy” where they gotta finish something despite how awful it is because they came this far so might as well finish it anyway.

    Lot of casual Marvel fans desperately trying to find something to fill the void.

    The MCU was always mid and got too many free passes from general audiences. Not that people are starting to be honest and realize the Mid-CU is worse than ever, they’re upset, and “fatigued”. But really they wouldn’t be “fatigued” if the Mid-CU was actually good and consistently dropped banger content.

    Fatigue won’t set in if they can keep the show good, but this season alone is already casting doubts.

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      9 months ago

      I disagree that fatigue only happens when something becomes bad. It also happens when it becomes repetitive. The animation, voice acting, violence and dialogue could all be top notch, but if certain things start happening over and over again like fake out deaths or multiverse events that people have seen a million times before, then plenty of people will check out early.

      The Boys might not have lost its audience yet, but if it keeps the same story going over and over again then it most certainly will lose a chunk of it. Like I said, everything surrounding the story is top notch in that show - especially the acting - but it can’t go on that way forever. TWD comics were fairly popular, so the show followed them heavily right up until the end and it lost an insane portion of its audience because it just kept doing the same thing.

      I don’t know about this season though, I agree with you on that. Hopefully things pick up.

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      9 months ago

      Not crazily impressed with the animation myself but I’d never describe it as gutter tier. You can tell they put a lot of heart into a lot of the concepts they wanted to recreate. It’ll never look as good as the comics, but the fact they can get close enough that it doesn’t really bother the general public is good enough.

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    9 months ago

    Well… hate to be that guy but one and a half.

    I fell off the show hype train at the exact spot I fell of the comic hype train.

    I’ve tried the read the comics and got bored as soon as omniman left earth but the show was better than the comics! So I had hope!

    I do not care for the first half of season 2. I was bored out of my gourd. Especially after a 2 year wait?! AND a mid season hiatus?!?

    Second half may be a complete pass for me. There is no hook like the first season had that has kept me invested.

    Unless you count memes about mark liking and subscribing to omnimans YouTube and leaving a review for his books on Amazon 😂😂😂

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      9 months ago

      You just doesn’t seem to like invincible in general. Why are you here?

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    9 months ago

    If you read the comics the only fatigue was some “are they dead?! NO THEY’RE ALIVE”. Although it wasn’t actually Allen that caused these issues.

    Invincible suffered from the opposite of what you fear the boys and Marvel are doing. The comic story was moving too fast and near the end it feels like Kirkman was trying to rush the series out the door. Think like GoT last seasons where you were getting whiplash from armies teleportating.

    Fatigue Is more a thing that happens when a show or series is going nowhere, or there is just too much of it. If we were getting 30 episodes a season it could happen, but 8 episodes 2-3 years apart? That’s not a big problem

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      9 months ago

      Personally I think the show is probably going to have some fatigue issues when we really get into all the the alternate reality/timeline shenanigans that cause the major time skips. I wouldn’t be surprised if the show cuts out/replaces stuff like the arc where Invincible gets sent back to the start of the series since while it’s a fun idea to explore in a comic, I feel like in a show where you only get 1 season every 2-3 years that kind of stuff would kill the pacing of the show and make it feel like it’s wasting time.

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    9 months ago

    If we are using the show’s pacing for reference, then we could go for 6 seasons tops. Anything past that is already dragging the show.

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    9 months ago

    There’s some parts where they do fake out deaths or when parts start to drag but it’s no big deal. What you should worry about is Amazon trying to increase the life span of invincible like what they’re doing with the boys, I wouldn’t worry about Kirkman he knows when to stop

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      9 months ago

      He didn’t with TWD but that was a cash cow and probably had AMC’s influence all over it.

      My only hope is that the show comes to concise and earned end that doesn’t feel rushed or played out.