I feel like her story crossed many lines. Watching videos from Gaza of innocent children with burnt bodies, brains exposed, or a boy with a blown-off leg and a burned face screaming in agony with rubble in his throat, I can’t help but feel that Loren’s humanity is selective. Perhaps if the Palestinians looked more European, she would have shown them sympathy. When Netanyahu quotes biblical texts to justify acts of violence, it’s not seen as terrorism. How much is too much for her? How many more babies and children does she want to see blown to bits to justify October 7th?
I condemn Hamas and the killing of all innocent civilians. I also condemn Israel for killing and carpet bombing Palestinian homes. As a leader, I wouldn’t bomb a city to bits, knowing I could potentially be killing the hostages that justified starting the war. My priority would be to send a special ops team to extract the hostages. If the exact location of the tunnels is known, why bomb from above without confirming the hostages are there? It makes no sense. Ignorance is bliss, and it shows.
It’s funny how she equates terrorism exclusively with Muslims. The mass shooting in Maine wasn’t carried out by a Muslim, but it was terrorism. Looking at statistics, the majority of mass shootings were not carried out by Muslims. Radicals exist in all religions; it’s not exclusive to Muslims. The majority of the war cabinet members in Israel are radicals, calling Palestinian children and babies animals and barbaric, blindly murdering them to pave the way for luxury condos and oil exploration. Google the leaked Israeli think tank document explaining their plan for the Gaza Strip. Israel has also approved oil exploration permits for companies like BP to search near the coast of Gaza. Islamophobia is real, and Loren is an Islamophobe.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
Hamas cannot be tolerated. Period.
Let me Guess she’s a Trumper too
“Fear mongering “. They don’t just want Israel gone . They want it’s people exterminated. Hamas and its supporters. This shit happened her grandparents and older relatives .
Again it does not mean you kill innocent civilians. While we are on reddit, people are literally dying from diseases, lack of medical care, starvation, bleeding to death, suffocation from collapsed buildings. Why is that ok for you? The average Palestinian does not = Hamas
Unbelievable how violent and blood thirsty some humans are
I stand for a ceasefire, to let Palestinians and their Jewish neighbors to live in peace, and get rid of Hamas through means that don’t harm innocent civilians.
As a Muslim woman, this is scary. I feel comforted in the comments 🥹
First: this is a 90 day fiancé subreddit sir, why are you writing an essay on foreign affairs here? And no, it doesn’t matter that she’s a cast member, you dropped her screenshot and then wrote a fucking essay on what you would do in the Middle East.
Second: you need to understand her background here, and this is not to justify or agree with anything she is saying but this is a Jewish woman with an Israeli husband. This is DAYS after one of the bloodiest conflicts her husbands nation has ever seen. We don’t need to sit here and act like we even begin to understand what anyone on either side feels.
Third: you are a Reddit poster, not a leader of a nation, so please shut the actual fuck up with your armchair quarterbacking of sending in special ops to free the hostages. This isn’t fucking CSGO it’s real life.
Fourth: that is a strawman to say she doesn’t condemn the Maine mass shooter as well. You fucking dickhead of course she isn’t in support of that. But this probably has more personal connection to her.
In conclusion you need to find somewhere else to roleplay as a general.
You…also just wrote an essay?? Why are you so pressed?
Calling OP a “fucking dickhead”. Like ???
Pressed because OP wants to boil down the most complex foreign affairs situation into “why can’t we all just be friends”
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ETA, you have also written an essay
Shut up Loren
yep that’s definitely muslim fear-mongering. yikes.
And she leaves out like all the Palestinian Christians bombed sheltering in their ancient church. Hello there’s Christian Palestinians Israel is killing too, it’s not a friggin “jiiihaaad” situation. Everyone forgets them altogether (too brown).
Not just that but Christian numbers in Palestine have gone down significantly because of what Israel and the IDF has done to them for decades since the Nakba in 1948. I wish more American Christians questioned the conditions Christians Palestinians have had to live under especially for those in Gaza and the West Bank. It’s all very heartbreaking. Father Emmanuel Musallam comes to mind because he once said something along the lines of “if they bomb your mosques raise the call to prayer from our church.” Christian and Muslim Palestinians are all living in terrible conditions and both communities do a beautiful job of supporting one another.
Christians are a small minority in that area. They always get caught in the crossfire.
There are very likely more Christians who have died since the terrorist attacks than Israelis.
People like Loren are quick to argue that antisemitism is wrong- while ignoring that countless innocent Christians and Muslims are dying.
The mental gymnastics are mind boggling. Someone treating you as less than human isn’t right. Killing your and taking you from your native land isn’t right…. Unless you’re Christian or Muslim.
She’s not fear mongering. She’s a Jewish woman married to an Israeli who is terrified.
Do you have any idea what it feels like to be a Jew right now? Let alone the mother of 3 Jewish kids??
She literally said 15-20% of the Muslim population could potentially be blood thirsty killers?! Did you hear about the Muslim pediatric doctor who was stabbed to death while she was sitting outside at a picnic table in texas this week. People on both ends are scared and being targeted. It’s tragic and unfortunate that there is so much hate in this world. Everyone has a right to live and feel safe without having to constantly look over their shoulders
Loren isn’t wrong. With the southern US border being wide open to anyone, it’s not a stretch to assume some people coming in here hate America and may want to do harm to us in the future.
People coming in here, we don’t know who they are, where they’re from, what their intentions are. Some bad mofo’s coming in here and another 9/11 is not difficult to imagine happening. Hope it doesn’t happen of course.
The USA has a lot of enemies and with open borders, we are giving them the red carpet to enter.
I mean so Loren isn’t entire wrong.
Your commentary on both Loren and the whole situation is an 11/10 and I honestly wish my PM had just half of your capabilities to analyse the I/P situation. It would have made for a far less embarrassing response. As for Loren and Alex they have proved themselves extrimists who only care for their own i think.
Yeah I never cared for Loren but this makes me really dislike Alexi. Wasn’t he in the IDF?
He was and they met on a birth right trip. What do Americans think goes on during a birth right trip?
Yes, but that’s not saying much on its face because fixed-term service is required for Israeli citizens with few exemptions. You do your mandatory term and can then be called up for reserve duty until your 40th birthday, so the majority of Israeli Jews were in the IDF.
She’s not wrong though.
It’s funny how she equates terrorism exclusively with Muslims.
Funny but not really.
Wanna know who isn’t beheading or bombing people because of their religion? Atheists. Sure, we have our fanatics. But our “fanatics” mostly complain on Reddit and Facebook about why our money says “In God We Trust”. Me I just translate that to “In The Fed We Trust”.
Did all this Israel vs Palestine stuff start because of religion? I’m so confused about all of it because literally no one can take a side without being called anti-Muslim or anti-Semitic.
As a fellow atheist, this is why I hate religion. All this killing and violence is exactly what religion does to people. Yes I’ll take the downvotes idc
I called her and her husband out as zionists since they attended that rally he posted a few years ago and I was called antisemitic, racist, bitch, etc, on fb. So many people made excuses for them.
I remember watching that season where Loren’s parents didn’t want Loren and Alexei to move to Israel and live in a kibbutz. I especially remember when Loren said they would live in Israel until the kids were old enough for military service and then take them back to the US before they were required to serve. If I recall correctly, her friend Keren said something to the effect that the kids may actually want to serve alongside the peers they grew up with in Israel. I wasn’t surprised when they abandoned their plans to move after that. The trip to check out the kibbutz caused a rift within Loren’s family and they almost didn’t come to her baby shower over it.
Without taking a position on the current conflict, I didn’t like Loren’s attitude during that season at all. Why immerse your children in that culture and then decide to pluck them out as soon as it becomes inconvenient for you? What if they don’t want to go home and they do want to serve their adopted homeland alongside their friends? Why even set up that potential family conflict in the first place? That episode really irritated me.
Shut up
