• SAR540@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Watching it again, I think what really set him off was her saying “I wish he was dead so I could grieve him.” That subtle hint that part of her still loves him is what pisses him off, cause he can’t understand how she could still have feelings for that monster. Not saying his actions were completely appropriate l, but I’m not sure I would’ve been any better.

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    10 months ago

    I was honestly expecting him to attack her, so he handled it better than I expected… still not well.

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      10 months ago

      I guess I’m part of the 10% :/

      I’ve never been in this situation so this is just me speculating, but I wouldn’t be mad at Debbie, I could imagine myself being a kind of upset at first but I wouldn’t snap at her or blame her for something she clearly had no control over.

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      10 months ago

      You’re right and being downvoted. Someone with that much hate and needing an outlet for his rage would have hit her. So I guess the group therapy is kinda working?

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    10 months ago

    It’s more complex than that. The whole purpose of the support group was to be anonymous and even included people related to supervillains and people victimized on superhero battles. That was set up like that precisely so people who wouldn’t want to ever talk to each other if they knew their identities could provide some support in a very niche emotional environment of the superhero world. He was a dick to her but the rules were there for a reason, Debbie’s not at fault either because she just wasn’t getting the emotional catharsis she wanted due to not being able to talk about her situation specifically. It’s a shit situation with no villain.

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    10 months ago

    Dude asked her out and then got mad at HER because of Nolan which is kinda stupid but it’s justified. Doesn’t mean he’s not a dick but I can understand it, dude is grieving too. Blaming Debbie for not knowing is ridiculous because even if she did find out, what’d she even do against a being who’s basically a god compared to her?

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      10 months ago

      And she DID find out too, the first time that he actually did something that was solely for the Viltrumite empire, she sleuthed it out and did all she could, even if it was only trying to contact her son.

      Realistically, she raised the only person willing and able to stand up to him, and taught enough to Nolan about human life to make him surrender his mission. Honestly? Debbie saved the planet’s butt, including mr way too personal over there.

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    10 months ago

    Look man, I understand you are in extreme grief. I get where your anger comes from. But I don’t see how Debbie is to blame for any of it. Debbie was as much a victim of Omni-Man’s manipulation as anyone else (bar those who paid for it with their lives). Hell, Debbie is probably the one person who was manipulated the most next to Invincible. And it’s not like she stands by Omni-Man after all that’s gone, she is completely broken by Omni-Man’s deception.

    So no, sorry. I understand your grief but you were totally being a dick, dude

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    10 months ago

    Yeah I understand he’s grieving but it doesn’t change the fact that he’s a dick.

    Two things can be true at once lol.

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    10 months ago

    Honestly I think he wanted to just date her lol . As soon as she mentioned she not over Nolan he turned south real quick

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    10 months ago

    I think he had an emotional outburst and that’s not reflective of who he really is. I’d say that he acted like a dick but he probably isn’t one.

    There’s a reason there were rules…

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      10 months ago

      This is the opinion I was looking for. I think there’s a big distinction between acting like a dick and being a dick. Its completely reasonable that a good person could have this reaction if blinded by grief. Now he really could be a dick, but I don’t think that you can come to that conclusion from this one event.

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      10 months ago

      I mean, I think he was very clearly hitting on her the first day of therapy.

      Even if he wasn’t, dude came on a little strong

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      10 months ago

      He was a dick from the moment Debbie stepped out to the parking lot. Inviting her to the bar should never have happened. My suspicion is that he already knew she was Omni-man’s wife, and just wanted to fuck with her.

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        10 months ago

        I actually think he was trying to hit on her. One of his big sticking points when he was talking to the group was waking up in an empty bed, after all. Plus, the way he phrased it, as a bar a couple of the group go to after meetings, implied it wouldn’t be just them, but it was, and that’s SUPER fucking manipulative. I think that, either way you slice it, this dude is a creep, and a victim-blaming douche canoe. A grieving Victim-Blaming Douche Canoe, but a Victim-Blaming Douche Canoe none the less.

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    10 months ago

    He was weird and just trying to sleep with her.

    When he realized that was out of the picture he showed his true colors