Do you have a female character that might not (rightfully) fit with a modern audience? Is the woman you’re trying to portray lovesick,overtly sexual or a bit naive? Maybe a combination of all three?

Well the show has a very easy solution to that! Make the character competent yet angry with a very short fuse.

Comic Amber is love sick and naive? Make her this exemplary teen who politically goes above and beyond everything most actual politicians do but also give her a very short fuse and make her angry. You knew that your boyfriend is a super hero but it doesn’t fit narratically with the show / comic parallel? Just make her blow up at invincible. Problem solved!

Comic Queen Atlantis is naive and love sick? Immediately falling in love with invincible with a forced marriage? Well, just make her angry and competent.

Is your comic duplicate at risk of being groomed by a 2000 year old immortal man? Well don’t worry. Make her angry with a very short fuse and make her hypocritically blow up at Rex for daring to hypocritically call out her cheating on him while having sex with said immortal being.

Is comic Allen the alien throwing it down with big busted, single minded alien boob model? Well don’t worry. Just make her angry and competent. Now it’s commander Talia, who to be fair still had sex. It’s open to see if she is going to cheat on him or if she will be just angry and competent at Allen the stoner alien.

  • TerribleThiz@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    How is the atlantean queen in any way competent? She almost died because she couldn’t swim away fast enough and that’s basically all she did.

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    10 months ago

    OP is mad that women are sometimes portrayed as competent or capable of anger, and would prefer it if they were not.

    He will claim that it’s about “being true to the character/source” but of course it’s only a very specific type of deviation from the source material that upsets him.

    It’s not that he hates strong women! It’s that it’s so unoriginal and predictable.*

    *^(Strong men are not unoriginal and predictable, they are awesome. It’s different.)

    You know the type. We all know the type at this point.

    Sorry that girl you liked wasn’t into you, dude. Try not making it your whole personality.

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    10 months ago

    So what your post tells me is that your idea of a good female character is to either have her be a ”big busted, single minded alien boob model” or naive and lovestruck which both seem very one note to me, so the problem you really have is that they are changing the female characters to actually give them some actual personality which shows where your head is at.

    Kate was right about Rex by the way. He cheated on Eve with Kate so he has no right to call Kate out on “cheating” especially since Rex and Kate were never actually in a relationship.

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    10 months ago

    It’s funny how none of the commenters can bring actual arguments against those points. It’s clear that the writers don’t know how to change admittedly unfortunate characters into anything else but angry flawless characters.

    Why can’t Allen be with someone who just loves life? Why does amber need to be absolutely perfect yet angry? Why is the Atlantean queen so different from her character and just another angry angry person?

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    10 months ago

    What is this culture war bullshit.

    Show Amber in season 1 was annoying sure, I think they missed the mark with her character and made her more confrontational and angry than they should have. So far in season 2, however, Amber is much more understanding of Mark’s responsibilities as a superhero and is very kind. I think the writers understand the criticisms of season 1 Amber and have set out to make her more understanding towards Mark which I appreciate. Amber is fine. She’s certainly an improvement over that cardboard girlfriend character she was in the comics.

    The fish queen… really? You’re mad that the fish doesn’t want to bang Mark anymore? Who fucking cares. We got a really cool action scene that wasn’t in the comics and a great heroic moment of Mark saving the fish people from annihilation despite Cecil’s orders not to. This also serves to further set up the schism between Mark and Cecil that eventually leads to their conflict later on. We also got a hint about the Viltrumites’ ear weakness earlier on than in the comic… It’s better storytelling.

    As for Kate, it’s not much different from the comic? Rex is a cheating asshole and Kate is a cheating asshole, she points out how hypocritical of him it is to be mad about her cheating on him which is completely true. Kate wasn’t exactly a super nice person in the comic either, she was pretty damn rude to Eve on several occassions, and that’s not even including the obvious moment of her fucking Rex.

    It sounds like you’re just pissed off that the women in this show have a bit more complexity to them than in the comics and that certain characters such as Amber and Kate aren’t doormats. Idk what else to tell you except grow up

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    10 months ago

    atom eve and debbie are the best female characters, because their personality is much more than muh angry strong woman. these characters actually go through shit compared to amber putting a trantrum because mark was 10 minutes late.

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    10 months ago

    Honestly i need a rewatch about amber because people hate her so much while i barelly remember any scene where she is involved in season 1 lol

    I could remember some moments where she acted like an angry kid, but honestly i never thought about her since even the air in the show is shipping eve and mark and anyway, amber is still really young.

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    10 months ago

    Oh no not the Atlantean Queen, definitely one of the most important women characters in Invincible

    Kate’s response to Rex being jealous was the virtually the same as in the comic. The added a layer of bonding over “we both die a lot” is a nice addition.

    Amber being angry is not a key character trait. She was angry about being in a dysfunctional relationship, which is why she’s sunnier now that there’s a mutual respect and communication about Mark’s responsibilities.

    Talia was barely a character. Making her a general or whatever was odd but her personality is basically the same. She blew up on multiple characters throughout the story.