Jovi has been getting a lot of hate lately but I’m not sure that he deserves it. Of course right from the start they seemed to be the most normal couple on Last Resort so we wonder why they were there. Then there was a lot of drama that may or may not be scripted. Is he addicted to strip clubs? Maybe. He certainly enjoys it and if he was single and it isn’t leading to him being in debt I think it’s fine. It would be no different from spending lots of time gaming or playing poker. But of course he is married with a kid and Yara doesn’t like it so the expectation is that the strip club activity would at least be scaled back. But people have different reactions to their man going to strip clubs. I would say most don’t have a blanket ban and would allow their husband to say go to a strip club for a bachelor’s party but perhaps not be allowed to have a lap dance. Then there’s the drinking. Is he an alcoholic? I don’t know. But if he is, he’s certainly a high functioning one.

Of course there are things to criticize. He should discuss career opportunities with his wife and not lie about going to a strip club. He’s like a kid trouble to get out of trouble. He also shouldn’t be texting his stripper friend to come out knowing his wife would be upset. Again, don’t know if it was scripted but let’s assume that it’s not.

But all the comments about him being the worse or that he’s some kind of monster makes no sense to me. From what we know… Has he physically cheated like Asuelu? No. Does he become physically abusive when he drinks? No. Committed SA? No. Did he inflate or lie about his finances? No. An absolutely terrible father? No. Is he verbally abusive to Yara? No. If his main sins are sneaking off to strip clubs, not consulting his wife before turning down a job offer, and drinking too much… that doesn’t sound that bad to me. It’s not like Yara is a wallflower and their relationship doesn’t seem “toxic” to me.

In real life, I would have no issues with Jovi. He seems like a normal decent guy to me and his marital problems aren’t anything unsual. I wouldn’t stop being friends with him because of how he treats his wife. Ed, to me is the worst. If he had an issue with Jovi texting his stripper friend he should have said something to Jovi rather than purposely bring it up in front of Yara.

  • Mediocre-Affect780@alien.topB
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    This is a bad take. Continuing to do things that your spouse has consistently told you makes them uncomfortable does not make you a good partner.

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    When you have to compare him to other guys, you have lost the argument.

    He shouldn’t have done that but… But but…

    Javi is willingly lying to his wife. willingly doing things he knows Yara doesn’t like.

    He disregards her feelings and shut down any conversation. No, he isn’t the worst guy in the show but that doesn’t excuse his actions.

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      If watching women being thoroughly objectified is his idea of good fun, and he continues doing it, he will ruin her.

      His obsession with naked women is deeply upsetting and triggering to her. I get it. I was sexually abused by my older brother very young so no man of mine was ever going to be granted a pass to salivate over gyrating naked women in his free time.

      Jovi is too shallow and entitled to care about or see her point of view.

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        I am sorry your brother did that.

        And I agree. To me, the issue is that he places stripe clubs over Yara’s feelings. He would rather salivate over naked women than put Yara first. I don’t know how he can knowingly put her through that.

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    Normal and decent? In what world? Jovi is a disgusting pig. Trying to normalize visiting strip clubs is sleazy. If he wanted to live the bachelor life, he should have kept it that way. Now he has a wife and daughter.

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    As others have stated, the biggest issue with Jovi is how he disregards his wife’s desires and feelings.

    Real, private, marriage counseling would go a long way for them.

    I’m sure my opinion isn’t the common one, but Yara married this Jovi, strip clubs and all. Being left alone to deal with a miscarriage wasnt enough to remove Jovi as a potential spouse, so i can’t sympathize too much with future issues involving Jovi’s disregard for her emptiness state. Being a great wife doesn’t remove someone desire for a separate activity So even if she gave him a second kiss and has sex every 4 hours, he’d still go when she sleeps. If the goal is to stay together, she needs help disassociating her value from Jovi’s interest in strip clubs. And Jovi needs to learn how to properly address his wife’s issues so she can feel secure in their relationship.

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    Nah. Just because he’s better than the others doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve shit. Sorry but you shouldn’t be at strip clubs when you have a wife at home.

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    Oh man I don’t know where to begin. Just because he didn’t physically cheat doesn’t make up for his actions. Maybe you’re ok with your man hitting up and lovvvving strippers - but personally, I would understand the anger and I thing the average woman would too. And on TOP of all that Yara has been very open about growing up with physical insecurities. The fact that she is BANGING - is it’s a added blow.

    God just the bar you set though, has he physically cheated? Does he beat her? I get you’re trying to say he’s not the worst in the group but the lack of basic empathy towards woman as a whole is where you lost me.

    He is not a he obvious cheating, reality tv husband. He is the realistic, gaslighting, heartbreaking husband that I wish upon no one.

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      Oh I understand the anger and I wouldn’t be okay if I was married to Jovi and going to strip clubs all the time but if you remove the stigma going to strip clubs doesn’t mean he doesn’t respect women. But we don’t know if he has dialed it back since getting married. Regardless, the point is that it doesn’t make him a monster. Going to strip clubs is clearly something that Jovi has enjoyed since he was a child. For whatever reason he never got tired of it. I would understand if they got divorced over Jovi continues to go to strip clubs.

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        Ok let’s say we don’t say strip clubs don’t have a stigma. I agree! Let those women GET IT. But I don’t want my person to have to look at other 🐱. Fuck the stigma, if your partner or loved one feels disrespected by you enjoying other women’s VERY INTIMATE PARTS, that’s valid. Not a stigma.

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      What’s with the BANGING? So, if she were ugly, it would be less of an issue? That’s seems kinda weird. So, ugly girl feel less pain cause they ugly and should accept it? Doesn’t make sense.

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        Oh come now. No I obviously goes for stereotypical society standards of hot (nothing wrong with that). According to what he goes for (he’s shallow Af) then Yara has put in all the efforts to meet those shallow standards. What else can this girl do?

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        Oh come now. Jovi obviously goes for stereotypical society standards of hot (nothing wrong with that). According to what he goes for then Yara has put in all the efforts to meet those shallow standards. What else can this girl do?

        Just because I praise one woman’s looks doesn’t mean I’m automatically putting down any woman who doesn’t look like her. I can’t believe I have to explain that.

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        I think maybe they meant that Yara is putting more effort into her appearance upkeep than they think ugly folks do 😬 and she can’t do anything further to be attractive for Jovi? But I agree it doesn’t make sense because nobody could argue that Yara herself couldn’t be a stripper. If she weren’t “banging” (or just of a different body type than the strippers Jovi is into) she’d have even more of a reason to be insecure.

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    Your bar for relationships is lower than my own. That’s all I can say. My biggest prerequisites to getting married were that because I already had an amazing life as a single lady, I would only date a man who somehow made it even more fabulous (which was a tall order) and that I would never accept ‘if only’ in my thought process about a relationship. He’s so sweet, kind, and funny… if only he was more responsible about his spending. He’s so handsome, responsible, romantic, and great in bed…if only he didn’t hang out every weekend at a strip club.

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      That is fine. It’s your life. But I would say that there would be a time when your partner may be hurt by your expectations. Because essentially you’re asking your partner to provide you with only the positive and none of the negatives.

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        No… that’s definitely not what I said. There are negative traits that aren’t 'if only’s. If only’s are major traits that are the kinds of things the other partner can’t look past. For me, traits that I can’t budge on are smoking, drug use, excessive drinking, bad credit, mean to animals, mean to kids, mean to me, etc. Traits that bug me but I can look past… snoring, leaving dirty socks on the floor, not cleaning the bathtub after he uses it, weed whacking the wrong bushes,etc.

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    I respectfully disagree. Some men seem to believe that continuous disrespect, manipulation, not doing their fair share at home, obscene selfishness, and callous behavior that upsets the wife is a-ok 👌🏼 add on top of this Jovi’s addiction to alcohol and strippers and not caring how much it hurts Yara are all grounds for divorce. Jovi is a complete shithead.

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      I never said it isn’t grounds for divorce. In this day and age, in North America at least, if you can’t accept your partner’s behaviour it is grounds for divorce. That doesn’t make Jovi some sort of monster.

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    Honestly, I don’t hate him either, but that’s because I don’t really trust what the show is giving me and I think TLC is frauding some shit because they don’t want Jovi and Yara to stick out as The Normal Ones in a sea of train crashes.

    If I were to take what the show is giving me as 100% accurate reality, without any TLC fuckery going on, I’d probably not like him very much, and I get why the subreddit hates him because I feel like not a lot of people here actually know just how much TLC fakes.

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    He also shouldn’t be texting his stripper friend

    He shouldn’t have ANY phone numbers of strippers in his phone now that he is married and has a child. That is soo beyond disrespectful. And especially since this is a “friend” he took on vacation 7 years ago, and hooked up with.

    Also you skipped over him lying to Yara’s face when he said he never hooked up with her. When we just saw him 5 minutes earlier in the confessional tell all of us that yes, in fact, he did hook up with her. Yara was absolutely right to wonder what might have happened had she actually shown up and taken the boys out for a night on the town.

    (EDIT: 99% chance this stripper shows up during the tell-all, assuming we get a Last Resort tell all)

    And just because Lil’Pred, Asuelu, or other emotionally / physically / financially abusive assholes / cunts exist, is NOT AN EXCUSE!!!

    Regarding Ed bringing up the texting of the stripper in front of everyone: First the Mucinex germ sucks, without doubt. But Ed quite obviously seized on this moment to get revenge on Jovi, from their prior tell-all episode where Jovi was calling Ed out for remaining in contact with Rose, and everything else that transpired between them during that filming. Ed felt attacked then, and he holds grudges. And you could seen in Ed’s smirking after making both Yara cry, he was thinking “redemption is mine!”

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      Yup. There are some great men out there but also such a huge population of whiny, fragile, childish men… I can understand the urge to overlook things but suddenly you’re overlooking way too much. It’s entirely possible that the population of women is the same, but since I never dated a women I don’t know.

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    I watched a video yesterday and the woman in it said her gramma always told her that you can standards or you can have a man, but you can’t have both. Just remembering that now for no particular reason…

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    If any place is short on doctors and psychiatrists, they just need to come to the 90 day and married at first site groups. Everyone here using their “degrees” and diagnosing a staged reality show in real life.

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    he literally gaslights and emotionally manipulates yara and breaks down her self esteem to the point where he can get away with this kind of stuff. why on earth would you bother typing all this to defend a man who has no respect for women, let alone his wife?

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    This sounds like Jovi wrote this. If you’re serious, you might need to self-reflect on why. You seem to sympathize with Jovi a lot, perhaps because you share personality traits or moral values.

    Jovi doesn’t seem to love Yara as much as he loves himself, and it shows A LOT through his actions. More simply put, he’s a Peter Pan.