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Not do it, hopefully. I hated how it was handled in the comic.
Full penetration scene
Just let it happen mark
they will shrink her breasts like the other female characters .
the scene will not be graphic, they will just let us hear the sounds of mark. resisting , that’s it . the show is “for adults” but other than the blood, they never do graphic sexual stuff ( example: >!nolan/debbie, mark/amber allan/Telia are way more hands on in the comic book than in the show.!<
I have a feeling it’s going to Halen off screen with hints about it, then a reveal
No, leave Mark alone! Take me instead!
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-w9EcpXYhe8rP0_gAppPjuvsnCxjmyON?si=u9id0bgWAxCjQVXl
I have a feeling it’s going to be a tad more subtle on screen 😂
I hope not.
The violence for s1 was turned up compared to the comics.
I feel like they’re gonna keep it in. A good way I think they can do it is do what The Boys did with Herogasm and have a disclaimer on screen before the episode starts
Why whould they need to put a disclaimer for rape scene in an adult show
Can’t wait for Amber to be angry at Mark for “cheating”
Tf you on ? Amber and Mark stopped dating long before this happened
idk how some of y’all manage to bring up amber in EVERY unrelated thread.
Amber isn’t even int eh picture when this happens
Putting it in the series 🤷♂️
Off screen, or only show faces or something like that. All of the partial nudity and raunchy moments from the comic so far were removed save Rex/Kate. Apparently there’s a “sex scene” in season 2 so we will see what their sensibilities are on this issue. Right before someone gets torn to pieces by bare hands.
I’m assuming the sex scene in s2 is gonna be Immortal and Kate, and probably won’t show anything
Telia and Allen is my guess.
thats better than my idea, i think you’re right
Fish sex 👍
On screen sex is different from on screen rape.
Banana Fish is an example of a series that features a male survivor of rape and sexual assault as it’s main protagonist and does a pretty damn good job of handling those themes.
While there are plenty of instances where sexual assault and rape are either outright stated to have occurred along with indications of what has occurred before and after the event, no character is actually shown getting raped or assaulted on screen.
And Banana Fish has been praised for this because even when rape is handled with the seriousness and gravity that it warrants, the fact of the matter is that if it takes place on screen then not only is there potential to do real harm to actual survivors by triggering a trauma response, but there is also the potential for the work to be accused of fetishizing that violence, even if that was never the creator’s intention.
This flat out imo shouldn’t be in the show imo you can tell this story without showing a rape
Hopefully they go full irreversible.
Hopefully exactly the same. It’s easily the most well-handled/written male rape in media (IMO).
Mark is hurt by it but doesn’t turn into a victim.
It isn’t fetishized.
It isn’t played for laughs.
It isn’t immediately forgotten about after a couple chapters.
It isn’t used as a hate sink for that character.
It’s a part of the story and FEELS like it’s a part of the story, rather than shameless shock value.
I really, really, really hope they change nothing about it.
change nothing about it.
The should change the consequences that rapenissa faced though, which were close to none.
I understand why this is a charged issue for people, but I think the way the comics handled it is good.
The whole point of it is that she was a different person when she raped mark, just like every other viltrumite. Were so desensitized to mass murder in media that we kind of shrug and accept a redemption arc for the murderous viltrumites - but Nissa confronts the audience with something deeply shocking and personal that forces us to really interrogate the questions the comic is asking about forgiveness and whether it can ever be earned when you’ve done something unforgivable.
The comics say that yes, genuine change is possible even for the most atrocious people. It would be nonsensical to say that yes, it’s possible, but ONLY for murder and genocide, not rape.
I don’t know. I feel like the fact that she is a woman plays somewhat heavily into the whole forgiveness angle. It’s easier, culturally, to forgive women as many of their transgressions are waved off. What I mean is that violent aggressive acts are typically seen as something inherent in men but with women kinder more nurturing actions are held in belief to be the norm. Women acting violently are easier to excuse for the violence they create. It is believed they aren’t really like that and are lashing out due to trauma or pressures of a patriarchal society. Culturally we only really see a woman as being evil or unforgivable when she goes against the perceived nurturing default (abusing, harming, or abandoning children)
This is all to say that we can recognize Nissa is wrong for raping Mark and that it is a brutal act but subconsciously we are more accepting of her redeeming herself. Typically in most storytelling like this a male rapist will not be given a chance to redeem themselves and live. Yes Nissa dies but not as a consequence of her assault of Mark. She “redeems” herself and then later dies in battle. Typically if the story is to punish a male rapist but have them redeem themselves then their redemption comes at the cost of their life. I could also go on here about how media is constantly pushing for men to sacrifice their lives and that once you actually pick up on it you start seeing it in every piece of consumable media but I have rambled on long enough
Honestly something really weird that I notice a lot is that people are almost never forgiving of rape by fictional characters but it’s gotten forgiven a lot by people in real life.
The most obvious example I can think of is when women teachers do it, but then again that also goes into your point about women typically being forgiven more than men for that kinda thing.
But then you have cases like Mike Tyson, who did many other things along with rape (such as numerous cases of assault and even biting part of an ear off) but almost no one talks about it and he still gets work. Like I had no idea about those things until I saw his Wikipedia page. It’s really fucking bizarre to me sometimes
I understand why this is a charged issue for people, that’s why the way the comics handled it is bad.
FIFY
The whole point of it is that she was a different person when she raped mark
Doubtful, since she apparently doesn’t regret doing it.
The comics say that yes, genuine change is possible even for the most atrocious people.
And it’s done it a fucking poor way, imagine a viltrumite male rapist saying that he doesn’t regret raping Eve because it gave him a child that he loves. Most people in the fandom probably including you wouldn’t be so forgiving.
Same. It’s something I hope gets adapted 1:1 from the comic.
you clearly havent watched the sopranos
Or once upon a time in america
Guts?
What exactly happens afterwards? Because I feel like your just saying a bunch of bullshit to justify having this in the show.
Hey y’all can we make a rule so that you can only comment on stuff if you’re informed of what happens, and not just making baseless assumptions?
Hey y’all can we make a rule that if you want to include a sexual assault in a tv show and someone ask how is important for the character that got assaulted. That people just answer the fucking question?
Maybe you should find a more age appropriate show for your middle school brain
There’s a really big difference between “How important is it for the character?” and “You’re just saying bullshit so they keep this in the show”.
One is a question, the other one is a baseless assumption of someone that paints them in a bad light. If you want people to answer your question maybe ask said question in the first place.
I think they are gonna skip it, and the show will be better for it.
The scene makes me uncomfortable but to say it’s better without it is just straight up wrong
Hopefully carefully, it’s an important point tk make. Show that men can be victims of sexual assault and rape. Don’t treat it like a joke like lots of movies do.
if they do it like the comics that’s exactly what’ll happen
Especially with the timing that this happens. Mark is dealing with the love of his life, telling him to get bent. As he’s reconciling with this, he gets raped.