I’ve started to read heart of darkness recently, and frankly, it has been quite a struggle.

At first, I thought this book will be my cup of tea, I love history and also reading the classics, so a book criticizing colonialism in Congo sounded intriguing to say the least. But I already read the first 60 pages of the book, and it has been so difficult to follow.

The book is filled with archaic words, and there are so many metaphors. It’s like the author tried writing the book as complex as possible. I sometimes have to reread entire paragraphs just to understand what is happening and it’s quite frustrating.

I’ll admit that I’m not a native speaker, but I consider my level of English to be quite good and I didn’t expect it to be so difficult to read this book. I read war and peace and the count of monto cristo in English and they were much more interesting and easier to follow.

I saw some negative reviews about the book but I assumed they were mostly about the patronising and racist nature of the book, I didn’t think the writing would be so senseless.

Should I keep pushing on or just give up on the book? Is it worth finishing it?

  • boxer_dogs_dance@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    If War and Peace and Count of Monte Cristo had modern translations, then it is not the same type of reading challenge.

    The language has changed

  • Mentalfloss1@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Never go past a word that you don’t know because when you do the meaning of the sentence/paragraph/chapter/book is lost. I enjoyed “Heart of Darkness” but until we discussed it in class I hadn’t realized the subtleties that I’d missed. We were all in the same boat on that. Read a Cliff’s Notes or an analysis on Goodreads or wherever at some point.

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    10 months ago

    My first inclination is that if you’ve given the novel a fair shake and it’s not working for you, then move on.

    But isn’t Heart of Darkness on average like…75-ish pages? If you’ve already read 60 then I feel like you’re almost done, and in this case, might as well just finish it and decide for yourself.

  • AcolyteofAconite@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    It’s over a hundred years old, so the language, conventions, and formatting are over a hundred years old. Not only are some words archaic, but some word usages are archaic – sentence 2 of the whole book says “The flood had made,” where made means to “rise.” I had to look that up as a native English speaker, because my first thought was, “The flood made what, exactly?” No one uses “make” as “rise” anymore.

    If you’re not enjoying it, I would skip it, or dedicate yourself to making notes in the margins about more complicated word use. The point it’s making was revolutionary and fair for its day (not many people sympathized with Africa and hated colonialism in 1899), but better and more concise works on the same subject have come up in the time since. You’ll have to make that decision on your own.

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    10 months ago

    Yes it is. Conrad himself admitted to making it challenging to read so it feels like the reader is fighting through the jungle along with Marlow. It was challenging even by the standards of the time it was written in.

    Also please don’t listen to people telling you to put a book down if it doesn’t click with you right away. That’s fine advice for a newer book that you’re only reading for pure entertainment, but part of the benefit of reading classics or more literary works is to sharpen your mind and attention span.

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      10 months ago

      It is incredibly rich textually and wonderfully well constructed and just as paradise lost was an inescapable framework for the romantics, heart of darkness was an inescapable framework for the late modernists and postmodernists ford maddox ford writes about this very evocatively. Yes it isnt a breezy read

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      10 months ago

      I wish my teachers had told me this. It was so torturous to get through, I thought that UNICEF would have to come in and investigate the school.

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    10 months ago

    I had to read it on 3 different occasions for school because I have an English Lit degree. The analysis was interesting, but it still wasn’t for me and I didn’t enjoy it.

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    10 months ago

    I read Heart of Darkness in high school and I’ll be honest I don’t remember the language of it very well. I don’t remember it being particularly difficult (well, any more than other 18th-19th century works anyway).

    What I DO remember is going from having never heard of it before, to suddenly seeing references to it everywhere. It was like a whole new secret code language was unlocked.

    It’s pretty short. I would crack a dictionary and maybe read a literary analysis or two and struggle through it. It’s worth it.

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    10 months ago

    I found that listening to the audiobook really helped a ton. You could really hear the emotions behind the words, which helped you keep following even if you don’t understand all of them

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    10 months ago

    there are so many metaphors

    You sound like Joseph II who said to Mozart his piece has too many notes so, cut a few notes from his composition and it will be perfect.

    I mean… what is going on - lmao

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    10 months ago

    Well, English wasn’t Conrad’s first language either but he managed to write it so you might be able to read it. He is a very intense author and Heart of Darkness is one of his more intense works so it is liable to be a struggle for most readers. Perhaps you should try some of his other stories like Youth, Under Western Eyes and/or The Secret Agent before coming back to Heart of Darkness.

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    10 months ago

    It is dense.

    I personally also class The Heart of Darkness as one of those classics which benefit from being a bit older reading them. I don’t know how old you are. It may not be relevant. I just engaged with the story better in my 30’s or 40’s. I still hate the ending, I can’t imagine a scenario where I wouldn’t hate the ending. But I appreciate the first 75% more now.

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    10 months ago

    It’s not meant to be an easy read. It was written by a Polish writer who had English as his third language (the second one was French) and who wanted to be as cryptic as he could. Also, it’s what is known as a roman à clef or novel in code, where many characters, dialogues and events are not meant to be taken verbatim, but as allusions to countries and philosophies. My take is that “Heart of Darkness” was inteligible when it was first released, but not now.

    Some people might consider “Apocalypse now” hard to follow, especially the last section at Kurtz’s compound, but that’s actually much easier to understand than the novel it adapted.

    But please don’t take my “criticism” of “Heart of Darkness” as a an attack towards Joseph Conrad. The man was a hell of a writer, probably on of the best ever to write in English. I just happen to find some of his other work, such as “Typhoon” or “Nostromo” much more fun.

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    10 months ago

    Yes. It’s very very dense. Read slowly, focus on every sentence.

    When I taught high school I used to assign my AP class 30-40 pages of reading per night for most books. For Heart of Darkness, I assigned 3-4 pages per night.

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      10 months ago

      I love that you are encouraging your students to slow down and focus, absorb, and appreciate dense material in contrast to gobbling up the pulp that is so prevalent and so devoid of substance.