Watching the scene of them waking up in the morning was so uncomfortable, because it’s so common- not just among the cast members on this show, but also in real life. Someone isn’t in the mood for physical intimacy, the other partner sees they are pulling away, so rather than respecting their boundaries, they force themselves closer by pulling their bodies next to them, begging for kisses, etc. If she wanted it, she would not be pulling away, so stop. No matter what their sex life was before, people have any number of reasons for needing more personal space and that shouldn’t matter. It’s so disrespectful and shows that he values his wants above hers (also- see Nikki, Jasmine last season, Rob, Statler…)

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      10 months ago

      She repulses me with her need for attention. There is no way that they are a real couple. She is known as the million dollar real life Barbie. She has also appeared in 4 other reality shows and tried to pitch for someone to do a reality show called “secret girls”

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      10 months ago

      When she told him she’d had a hormone shot and was trying to guilt him… he just is not into her. But if you’re taking female hormones, are you supposed to be acting like a ravenous man who isn’t getting any? Like I thought she’d be more chill about it

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    10 months ago

    While I believe that nobody should force themselves on anyone, I think when you’re fiancé, who you’ve boned plenty of times, is coming to your country to MARRY you, you would have some expectation of physical affection from the get go. No, I would probably not want to have sex after a long flight without showering and getting some sleep but a hug, cuddle, kiss, absolutely yes. If you act that disgusted and repelled by the person you claim you want to spend your life with, something is pretty fucked up. And I apply this to all the couples that go through this. You can’t possibly be committing to someone for life if you don’t even want to share a bed with them. Then why get married???

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    10 months ago

    Another thing that raises a red flag for me, is when she does decline his offer/request/whatever, he immediately lets out a huff, grunt, etc. of displeasure, and his facial expression goes to mad, more than disappointed. Angry eyebrows don’t suggest he has much empathy for whatever reason she’s giving him for “not now” or “not yet.”

    She hasn’t said “never” dude, but if you keep pushing it, you may lead her that way.

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    10 months ago

    I don’t think that Anali even likes Clayton, so what’s the problem? She doesn’t show any affection towards him, doesn’t say thank you for the flowers, gifts etc at the airport, puts a pillow between them at night, doesn’t react positive to him at all or only neutral, etc. I don’t think she’s a bad person, but definitely not in love with him. Better she goes back.

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    10 months ago

    I still can’t forget him taking off his filthy socks to get into bed. And she just had a tremendously long flight and morning sex! Yuck! The ‘aroma’ in there must have been quite pungent! Surely she doesn’t think she can live there?

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    10 months ago

    The preview for the next show has them in a hotel room with him laying on the bed like he’s Rico-muthafckn-Suave owning that bed, she says he thinks he looks sexy but he looks like a blob, or something she said, she’s standing there looking at him with her arms crossed…he ain’t getting none that night either. This is why the sisters po’d, he’s probably always in these relationships where the woman is so not into him, maybe using him, and she’s who has to dry his tears after she’s already told him the girl ain’t interested.

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      10 months ago

      And he told the camera “I don’t want to pressure her” but then kept telling her he was sad because she wanted to go to sleep. Yeah dude, that’s emotional manipulation and definitely pressure

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    10 months ago

    Yeah it was cringe, but I didn’t think it compares to Rob forcing himself on Sophie for sex when she was tired after her flight, or when Nikki pressures Igor for sex. That being said, it’s cringe. I don’t think he was looking for sex, but rather just affection because he does really love her and probably missed her. Everyone is different, she probably hadn’t seen him in a while and was likely uncomfy with his mom being next door, and some people take time to warm up.

    That being said, she’s still rude imo. When they rent a hotel room, from what I saw in the preview he tries to make it all cute and romantic and then she comes out and says he looks like a cow laying there… If the roles were reversed and it was the guy calling the girl a cow, we’d all flip our shit.

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    10 months ago

    The fact that he’s actually expecting regular intimacy when his mom’s closet basically shares a wall with his bedroom…come on. My husband knows better, and his brother just lives in the same house as us.

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    During the Danielle/Yohan scene, we got a brief glimpse of four people in the mirror from the production crew. Sometimes the crew has 2-4 people crammed into small spaces filming. So maybe there were 4 people standing at the foot of Anali’s bed with Clayton expecting her to be amorous first thing in the morning. He should let her get use to the cameras and lights and strangers standing a few feet away before expecting her to put on a show. And as always, kudos to all of these people that are willing to lose their privacy for our entertainment.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah I can see why she didn’t want to be intimate …long exhausting travel + mom close by + camera crew = no sex for you

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      10 months ago

      I was thinking these thoughts during Kenny and Armando’s appointment at the fertility clinic. Kenny had a really small cubicle with at least one camera man in there with him.

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        10 months ago

        Really I did not see that at all. Why would a cameraman be with him when masterbating?, well Statler was filmed in toilet and outside. Who would accept being filmed? But then again what "normal"person would go on the show.

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        10 months ago

        I assumed that the camera man was there to demonstrate the cubicle, but left when appropriate.

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    I think they’re very compatible, but she did not expect his apartment to be that confining. His mother lives in a closet and if she’s not in there, she’s in the kitchen which is too close for comfort she doesn’t have any privacy and on top of that there’s a lot of junk in there. He’s got animals, but they have more room than she does. I hope they work out, but he needs to find a place for his mother to live or get a bigger apartment. It’s not that you need space per se she just needs to have some alone time with him and her self.

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    10 months ago

    Also she just spent the previous day traveling and is probably exhausted. It always makes me cringe when people get pushy about physical intimacy on this show. If someone says no or their body language is saying no, then stop.

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    10 months ago

    I’m not understanding why that scene made you uncomfortable, it didn’t look like he was ignoring her boundaries or being coercive… and it isn’t even remotely comparable to the Rob/Statler/Jasmine/Nikki scenes you’re talking about.

    With that said, it’s ridiculous that he’s already complaining intimacy when she just landed, is probably tired/jetlagged and also his mom is only a couple of feet away on the other side of the wall.