I’ve found myself rereading invincible once again. It is one of my favorite comicbooks ever, and with comicbooks being my favorite medium for fiction that means that it is one of my favorite works of fiction period. Yet I feel like the show so far is an improvement on those first 30 issues.

This show somehow the most faithful adaptation of a comicbook I’ve seen to date, whilst also scrambling the order of many many plot points and changing the dynamics of many characters. Amber and William have been reworked completely, yet I feel like they’ve only been improved. Cecil started working with Mark way earlier, and was actually involved in the battle against Nolan. Robot makes his new body way earlier. There is way more time between the murder of the Guardians and the fight against Nolan, some plot points happen way earlier. These changes are obviously made so that they can compress the story down a bit and give us more character building early on, But I feel that it has mostly worked out for the better so far.

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    1 year ago

    Yeah and cut a lot too I miss Brit. All the GDA and director Slitter Lore. Nothing about tech Jacket yet…at least geldarians confirmed. I miss the alien world invasión & fusion kid. Also Omnipotus… The Kirkmanverse team up wont fit.

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      It is true that they do cut a lot of cool stuff. That is the negative side of it being in this 8x45 minute format. Whilst I think the core characters and interactions between them do gain a lot from it, we do lose out on a lot of fun stuff.

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      1 year ago

      I love the voice acting. It doesn’t feel hammy and over-the-top like a lot of other animated shows. It reminds me of the voice acting for the Spawn animated series.

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      Honestly, I’m kinda noticed that. The voice acting was already really good to me, but for some reason it seems…better? I don’t know how to explain in a way it makes sense other than “room for improvement”.

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        I think it’s a joke, as the thread is about what the show improved from the comic. The comics voice acting was lackluster imo, no real effort made at all

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        1 year ago

        I think it helps that they’re not on quarantine anymore, so the actors can actually be in the booth instead of being isolated

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    I’m in a similar scenario of rereading the series and whilst I love the show, I wouldn’t say it’s outright better. If anything I’d say it’s different but still good, and at least relatively on similar level when it comes to story.

    The highlight like you said was characterisation. Things like expressing Nolan’s regret and guilt before he leaves Earth was a lot more poignantly when in the comic I only really remember his one talk with Debbie in bed after killing the Guardians.

    Debbie getting her development post Nolan apparent pre Nolan leaving Earth like the real estate busniess and expanding the SoS group in change of Olga

    Mark sense of inferiority to Nolan picks up a bit here too but in more of an admiration level.

    The parts I didn’t particularly like was some minor characterisation changes like Nolan’s build of being distant went a little too far at times like the Dragon in Rome, the whole Amber break up and get back together, and some of the ordering of the story like I feel Reanimen really should’ve been saved for after >!Mark reunites with Nolan!< and depending on how episode 4 happened the same with the >!Lizard League Silo/Sequids in Space missions.!<

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    I love seeing how “Robot” in season one is already making the cold and calculated calls. He was ready to send in a nuke against the Flaxans and the entire city but gets called out, even by Rex, whom Robot/Rudy will eventually clone and assume his name. I always wanted someone in the comics to call him out on the name and how Rex would have never done something like that and would have tried to stop Rudy.

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    100% agree. When I saw that we were getting the Atlantis story I thought it would be such a waste of time. The comic version shows how weird the comic can get but it’s such a dumb issue imo, I don’t think we ever see the Atlanteans again

    But in the show they actually made it interesting and very consequential to Marks character development. Not to mention it foreshadowed some important things to come. If they can make THAT storyline important I have 0 doubts about this show

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    1 year ago

    Perfect thread for me to ask this question:

    What happens with the entire Flaxan/Robot storyline if Nolan already wiped them out in ep2?

    Did he not get them all?

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      Nolan didn’t wipe them out. His rampage still happens in the comics, but it’s off-screen and not shown until much later.

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      Honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if there like a minor detail about how because everything in that dimension happens, that much quicker pace compared to ours that the whole species recreated from evolution

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    I personally thought the show was better than the comic, I watched the show first then tried the comic and the battle between Mark and Nolan was way better than the comic version. But with how much I love the show, I’ve decided to give the comics another chance again and read the whole story!

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      1 year ago

      As someone reading the comics for the third time. I promise you that they get better, I like all of them, but if I were to compare, I would say the first 20 or so issues are a bit less engaging than what follows.

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        1 year ago

        Good! I need to give it a better chance then! Because I stopped right when Mark was supposed to marry Aquarius’ queen!

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    It’s just so refreshing to have a TV adaptation be guided by people who actually love the source material, and Kirkman himself obviously. The changes and rewrites have come from a place of reverence for the original comics and 9 times outta 10 are great changes.

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      Word for word, bar for bar. It’s an adaptation made by the original creators and people who like the original work. A change I like from the newest episode is >!Nolan’s depression after betraying both his people and his family and Mark’s attitude against Nolan on Thraxa. I remember when I first read Invincible I found Mark’s lack of aggression a bit unrealistic.!<

      I haven’t liked a comicbook adaptation this much since Spectacular Spider-Man. Though that is a whole different kinda adaptation. The cool thing about Invincible is that it is a continuous story, so it’s one of few adaptations that I can think of that doesn’t just make new stories with established mythos and characters.

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    1 year ago

    They improved debbie

    They improved all the fight scenes

    I am happy, even tho i read the comics i look forward for every episode, like im just seeing stuff for the first time

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    My biggest gripe with the show is how much they nerf the viltrumites (though that might change after the Allen incident). Nolan one shots the guardians and mark struggles against basically only battle beast. By this point in the comics, mark was probably able to one shot anything on earth, or at least close to it.

    I just find that he’s not quite living up to his name right now. I think I’d prefer it if he was a little more…

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      Yeah, like Mark gets his ass kicked a lot later on, but in the early parts of the series he was able to handle any threat fairly easily, it actually made him seen, cue title card, while in the first season he’s always getting the shit kicked out of him so I feel like some of his defeats don’t hit as hard, like we had basically back to back brutal beat downs from both Battle Beast and Omni Man.

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        Well Omni man and BB are the ones that I think should wreck him. But like the sea monster got one shot indirectly in the comments but in the show was a tank and wouldn’t haven even been beaten without the random chain attached to it.

        But the human reanimen, even if they’re worth 20 soldiers or whatever, should be obliterated by someone who can casually throw a ball around the planet on like day 3 of having his powers.

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          I agree, Battle Beast and Omni Man should beat him, I’m saying it’s weird to have that back to back, because part of why Omni Man’s beatdown was so bad was that was the first time in the comic Mark gets beaten like that

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            1 year ago

            Yeah that is true, sorry for misunderstanding you. Season 1 of invincible was mark getting wrecked back to back to back which was zzz. Reading the comics for the first time is like— “wait, he’s supposed to win??”

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      1 year ago

      Oh really?

      I actually kinda like how the OG guardians were a bit stronger in the show. I do think the dynamic between Invincible’s superior powers and Immortal’s fragile ego in the comic is very entertaining though, so I hope we get to see that eventually.

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    1 year ago

    Yup, the show is better in many respects. But it does have the advantage of being a second draft, of sorts. It’s also a different medium with different ways to tell the story. The voice acting, shot composition, music, and action are all great.