I just finished the show, and I’ve always been confused on this one part. When Sarah Lynn and Bojack are on their bender, I believe at some point it starts playing out flashbacks to a time when Bojack was gonna ask Sarah Lynn to be on the “Bojack Horseman Show”, when she said the famous “the light inside me is slowly dying” but was that actually real? Because after a couple minutes he snorts Heroin and then starts talking with the same guy that had him ask Sarah Lynn to come onto the show, asking if the whole doing heroin was too much. I assumed it was made up from the drugs but people are talking about it like it was a real event, so was it?
This moment was real and it was the last straw for Sarah Lynn. This was the moment where Sarah Lynn gave up. In this scene, you can see in the background that Sarah Lynn had written notes like “I love me” and “don’t forget yourself” or something like that and she had written them because while her life was hard and causing her to suffer she still was strong and had hope for herself. She wanted to keep her light alive. Then, Bojack came in and she is so happy because she feels like the person that she has looked up to so much, has hope for her too, and is proud of her, and supports her. But, when she realizes that he was only there to use her fame in order to get more attention on his show, she looses all strength. Her light dies. She gives up. This was when Sarah Lynn died because she now knew that there was nobody there for her.
Yeah it was real. And it was hard to watch.
Cuddlywhiskers and Bojack were discussing asking her to be on his show during a trippy “flashback” during their bender. The flashback of Bojack really talking to Sarah Lynn, when she says the light inside her is dying, actually happens in the next episode, totally separate from the context of the bender. You see that after she dies. It’s just what happened shortly after the flashback during That’s Too Much, Man.
Oh, my God, what’s next?! Evanston, Chicago? Morton Grove, Chicago? Naperville, Chicago?
And while you’re at it, I’ve got some other questions. Like, okay. When Ivy told Moose that he wasn’t her best friend anymore, and Moose said, ‘You’re still my best friend whether you like it or not…’ Was that real?
I always read it as real and the last loosing of her innocence. She is so happy to see a friendly face, someone who cares about her rather than her fame. And he fucks it all up by asking… something so small but its the point where her whole life shifts.
Man that moment sucked. It’s almost on par with her physical OD. That was the instant she knew she didn’t have one person in the entire world who truly cared about her as a person and liked who she was underneath the celebrity. And it’s been that way since she was basically born.
I completely agree
~losing
Yes, that was real.
Now I’ve got a question for you. Like, okay. When Ivy told Moose that he wasn’t her best friend any more, and Moose said, “well, you’re still MY best friend whether you like it or not,” was that real?
As I recall that scene starts with a big time marker for 2007, which we can note is never the case for any of the other scenes where drugs make us question the canonicity, and there’s nothing unnatural happening visually to indicate that it’s due to a trip, like the anomalies in Cuddlywhiskers’ room and >!Time’s Arrow!< (which are generally believed to be flashbacks of real events with slight alterations) or in >!The Showstopper and The View From Halfway Down.!< (where the scenes in question take place entirely within Bojack’s mind and only have canon significance in that scope)
Now Downer Ending throws a bit of a wrench into this because it does have meta bits with time cards being wrong and things being fabricated without visual indicators, but both of these things are very clearly communicated to be falsified, with the time card in particular being clarified by a second time card. Of course the whole show is made up, it’s fiction, so anything could be true, but I find it much easier to believe that what’s being communicated is that all of that scene did literally happen.
This is the answer I came here for