Serious question; after what happened in Season 1, there’s no way he’d not have serious PTSD. Debbie too for that matter!
This could have been a pretty engaging character point; instead it seems kind of weird how Mark is just “fine” while Debbie is breaking down alone and no one, not even Cecil, has recommended they get a therapist.
Therapy isn’t a cure or be all end all like reddit makes it out to be. Even then, what would therapy do for Mark?
This also goes into why Mark is Invincible. Not because he can’t be beaten physically, but because it’s damn near impossible to break him mentally.
It’s not even a fantasy thing, either. Trauma doesn’t affect everyone the same. Some people get PTSD from a terrible event. Others go through a terrible war like WW2, personally kill others and see their comrades die, and come out the other side thinking, “That was quite fun.”
Or, in other words, read about the life of men like Mad Jack Churchill.
Therapy is mental health medical treatment, analogous to physical medical treatment; albeit with entirely unique challenges, it is just as important to maintain ones mental health with as much care as ones physical health. After being beaten to pieces by his own father, Mark was treated for his physical wounds, but not his mental ones. Why not?
As for your analogy, it covers a very specific minority of people, who went through a vastly different experience. PTSD is not the same for everyone, it varies massively depending on the specific circumstances of what happened and how it impacted the victim.
I think you’re coming at this in bad faith and with a very narrow view point.
After being beaten to pieces by his own father, Mark was treated for his physical wounds, but not his mental ones. Why not?
Because you don’t need a doctor for minor injuries or sicknesses. Which is what this is to Mark. Had they left Mark on that mountain and not given him medical treatment, he still would’ve healed due to his powers. The physical treatment was undeeded.
Which goes into the next point:
As for your analogy, it covers a very specific minority of people,
Mark is the minority of people. A mental injury suxh as this is minor for him and he can heal on his own.
Which again is the point of his character. He’s Invincible because of his will and mind, not because of his body. There is nothing you can do to him to permanently keep him down outside of straight up killing him.
Besides he’ll go through far worse in the future. Such as >! Being raped and missing years of his daughters life due to unwilling time travel !<
Therapy isn’t a cure or be all end all like reddit makes it out to be.
I feel like some kind of therapy (doesn’t have to be in an armchair, but if he talked to Amber or someone) could be really helpful to Mark after what he went through, exploding the bodies of hundreds of people. I don’t have any quotes or anything but it’s been my impression that he’s expressing some irrational guilt over what happened that could probably be alleviated by therapy
I dont WANT therapy arc to happen cuz I feel like he’s getting through his emotions in a more interesting way rn, but that’s what I’d say if I wanted to fix this kid
Also, is that true about WW2 veterans? Ik you’re just kidding about them being “Oh yes my war is over!” after going through battle, but some of them just don’t have PTSD? Or less severe PTSD or what? I feel like a person can’t shoot another person without being broken mentally in some capacity
Most WW2 veterans did indeed not enjoy the war and had various forms of PTSD.
However, again, there are many humans who are just born different. Killing another human being to them is just like any animal killing another in nature.
To quote the one I mentioned above:
“If it wasn’t for those damn Yanks, we could have kept the war going another 10 years!” - Jack Churchill.
This was his response to finding out the atom bombs were dropped on Japan, as he was unhappy that the war was ending as he deployed to India.
He wasn’t an officer who just sat drinking tea behind friendly lines either. He led raids and even engaged the Germans in martial combat with a sword he carried during WW2.
He proceeded to go fight in post WW2 conflicts.
Is it really “many” humans though? I’m not doubting how crazy this guy is but I feel like it has to be a microscopic amount of people who are BORN different & predisposed to that jack churchill mindset, no childhood traumatic brain injury no nothing
That’s why I said many did NOT enjoy the war.
Me saying there’s many like him is a historic point. There’s been millions of Jack Churchills, but that’s a minor number compared to the rest of humanity.
Hmm yes yes
Debbie had her life turned upside down, the last 20 years of her life being a lie. That’s gotta mess you up, but hopefully with time she could heal.
Mark on the other hand was used as a weapon, literally feeling peoples flesh tearing apart on his arma and face. I don’t think you can ever recover from that unless you start treating humans like bugs
Yes, precisely why why I am confused why they aren’t in therapy? If they’d had their bodies broken they’d be in a hospital (Mark in fact, was). But why are they not getting treatment for their damaged mental health?
that’s lowkey what I thought while I was watching the show, but resilience of the human spirit I guess. I can’t imagine how I’d behave after being put through that
Maybe Cecil wants Mark to be broken so he would be more obedient and hard-working. It wouldn’t be the first time he did shady things.
This is likely true; I wonder why no one else has suggested it, including Debbie?
Mark is definitely not “fine”
You misunderstood me; quotation marks imply sarcasm. Of course he’s not fine, but he’s trying to give the outward appearance that he is; a thin veil that his loved ones see through. Hence why I think it’s incredulous that no one has foisted a therapist on him.
I agree he needs therapy
I was actually kinda concerned watching that – especially after the first scene of the 2nd season felt like it went on for a worryingly long time – that it meant that Mark was going to become a less heroic/virtuous character. Like he doesn’t really wanna talk about it with anyone, even his buds at the burger mart can’t get him to talk about it, he just wants to go back to hero work, etc. Especially now with the Viltrumites telling him to take up Nolan’s post (and Nolan telling him that he needs to start fighting to kill), it seems like all the conditions are aligning for him to abandon his morals (‘conditions’ including no therapy). But I didn’t read the comics, so I have no idea what’s gonna happen
