They clearly knew Nolan was stronger than them

Why did they try to 1v1 him?

Why did the steve harvey mf try to 1v2 nolan and mark?

The fight would have been much cleaner and more in their favor had they stayed together the entire time

They spoke so highly of Nolan, they must have known they’d lose any 1v1 against him

  • SevenateNiene@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    They’ve been powering over entire worlds, only needing one or two of themselves to bring entire solar systems to their knees.

    They also survived the great purge, seen in s1-8 where the knife-hair woman can be seen. They would most likely have been conquering worlds during the sane time Nolan was relaxing on Earth.

    They also most likely believed that Nolan may have grown weak with his newfound sympathies. They would be arrogant because they would all believe themselves equal to or more powerful than Nolan with their experience.

    • lonestar-rasbryjamco@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      They also don’t know Nolan >!is the true heir to Emperor Argall!<, so it’s not unreasonable for them to not be aware of power.

  • phantompowered@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    This is something I don’t quite get about how Viltrum works.

    Okay, so they fought a brutal civil war to get rid of “the weak.” But where does this stop? As long as there’s more than two Viltrumites, one of them can be proven weaker than the other. So they ought to be like Romulans, absolutely no loyalty/constantly scheming and ready to stab each other in the back in an instant just in case they need to be the stronger one in any given situation.

    How does a top down Imperial system even work for them? Is there a point where it’s like “okay, you’ve done enough, I respect it, you’re a Strong Viltrumite so I won’t kill you, come be a part of my Imperial court?” We all know how well that worked for Caesar, for instance.

    It doesn’t make sense at all that they would be loyal to the strongest guy, because the strongest guy would kill them in the blink of an eye if he didn’t already do so to get to the position of being the strongest guy.

    • tentoedpete@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      This was my take on it too. Didn’t one of them say something along the lines of, if they lose then they don’t deserve to live? I don’t think it’s arrogance, it’s their culture to fight to the death.

      • zedudedaniel@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        More than once.

        When Nolan says Lucan was weak and is dead, Thula said he deserved it.

        Vidor tells Nolan that if Mark dies fighting Thula, he never deserved to live.

        • Napalmeon@alien.topB
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Exactly. We have to keep in mind that these people truly believe in the survival of the fittest, and they apply the same logic to their own lives. Ruthlessness and loyalty to the Empire are the only thing that matter.

          Lucan may have been down, but he was not out, and with a very last bit of his strength he proved his veteranhood by doing what was expected of him. Completing the mission.

          That is how you get accolades with these people, and that is how you have to earn your place in their society.

          • BestBoogerBugger@alien.topB
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            The thing is that Viltrumites go very stupid way about “survival of the fittest”.

            They are such incredibly stupid race, that I can’t take them seriously.

            Mark is a literal Viltrumite toddler, compare to likes of Thulla or Lucan.

            Since after all, Viltrumites grow stronger with age

            So…why do they a child to be able to defeat their trained, battle ridden elders?

            This is like Brock Lesnar trying to pick a fight with 11 year old.

            • fakenam3z@alien.topB
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              To be fair from how Lucan made it sound they would take him in if he was just capable of putting up a good fight at his age. Like if he at all made it a challenge for them and managed to not die then they’d fold him into the empire and if not then he’s weak and didn’t deserve to live.

        • Neversoft4long@alien.topB
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Vidor and Thule were/are cool characters. I fuck with the fact they showed respect to Nolan. Also visors glasses combo was very clean

  • sweet_manzana@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    They haven’t fought each other for a very long time and most of the people they fight are way weaker

  • seelcudoom@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    because that’s their philosophy, although considering they sent 3 guys when they thought he had no backup it shows at least the decision makers understood he was not to be underestimated

  • Treyman1115@alien.top
    cake
    B
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Their society is built on Might is Right and not to having emotions. They’re likely fine with dying if it’s do to losing to someone weaker

    So try as hard as you can to win but if you lose so be it

  • MrArmageddon12@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Their society encourages arrogance. Not to mention that it’s easy to see how one could become cocky after living thousands of years conquering whole planets and civilizations.

  • Squidwardbigboss@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Because they have never been actually opposed before, they are so powerful every other creature in the galaxy is like nothing to them.

  • Imperium_Dragon@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    They split up because while they know one of them can’t kill Nolan for sure, one can hurt him enough to stall for the rest. And Lucan was pretty strong and didn’t think much of Mark (he’s only 18 compared to however many centuries or millennia old Lucan is). I mean, he held his guts in and still had enough strength left to kick Nolan.

  • morbidhoagie@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    They didn’t see him as stronger than them and thought they were weaker than him. But they don’t know that Nolan actually has royalty in his blood yet

  • nameless_stories@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    They think hes slipping or has lost his edge since hes abandoned his post and laid with inferior beings. Also their culture is based around constantly proving your strength so I guess it makes sense that they would want a 1v1 to prove that they can beat Nolan solo.

  • BoobeamTrap@alien.top
    cake
    B
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I don’t recall them trying to 1v1 him. They sent Lucan after Mark because it would have been an easy sweep, and Nolan intercepted him. Then Nolan and Mark confronted Vidor and Thula, so they couldn’t 2v1 him.

    The original plan was probably to 3v1 Nolan.