• sourcreamus@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    How about as a compromise they hire an adult to talk to kids about gay sex . That way the library can stay open and kids can learn about gay sex.

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    1 year ago

    A quote from one of those working against the library of St. Mary’s: “Gerard Kleinsmith, new vice-mayor, said the library underrepresented Donald Trump books.”

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    When I see something like this I take heart in this speech/manifesto from Andor

    “There will be times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. Alone, unsure, dwarfed by the scale of the enemy. Remember this. Freedom is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random acts of insurrection are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy. There are whole armies, battalions that have no idea that they’ve already enlisted in the cause. Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward. And then remember this. The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear. Remember that. And know this, the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empire’s authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege. Remember this. Try.”

    I emphasized the part most relavent in regards to the Christian zealots.

    • PRPLpenumbra@alien.topB
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      Andor absolutely kills it when it comes to speeches that enumerate the conditions of fascism. It has a lot of awareness of reality. Maarva’s speech is my favorite, personally, and also feels relevant.

      “We had each other and they left us alone. We kept the trade lanes open, and they left us alone. We kept their money and ignored them, we kept their engines running and the moment they pulled away, we forgot them. Because we had each other. We had Ferrix. But we were sleeping. I’ve been sleeping. I’ve been turning away from the truth I did not want to face.”

      “There is a wound that won’t heal at the center of the galaxy. There is a darkness reaching like rust into everything around us. We let it grow and now it’s here. It’s here and it’s not visiting anymore. It wants to stay. The empire is a disease that thrives in darkness, it is never more alive than when we sleep.”

      As a queer person there is a lot of truth in that quote. We have failed as a nation to identify the enemy, because we didn’t want to. They helped the economy, they seemed to cave in small ways like legalized gay marriage, and we believed them when they said it was enough. We got cocky, we fell asleep. Books, stories, perspectives, are light on the path that don’t always see, if we shut ourselves off to them we leave ourselves dark, and that’s where it wants us.

      “Perhaps it’s too late. But I’ll tell you this; if I could do it again, I’d wake up early and be fighting these bastards from the start. Fight the empire!”

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    1 year ago

    PUBLIC library. Go to the library with your damned kids and preview what they want to check out if you like. Parent your OWN kids as much as you like.

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      The only time any of those complaining would even think to go to a library is to search out some nonsense reason to be outraged. Prior to the start of this foolishness, I seriously doubt most of them even knew where their local library was located.

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      Sigh. Growing up gay in St Mary’s meant developing a convoluted personal philosophy and planning a career / lifestyle escape. Tragically inhumane/abusive every damn time no matter which parents you “belonged”

    • Dovaldo83@alien.topB
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      It’s not just keeping books they don’t like away from their own kids that they’re after.

      They want to return to the days when there was such a social taboo about being gay that everyone stayed in the closet. They don’t just want their own kids not to learn that being gay is perfectly acceptable, they want your kids not to learn it either, because then your kids might give their kids the idea that being gay is acceptable.

      It was never about their right to decide what their kids do or don’t read. It’s about regressing to the good ol’ days where the taboo nature of homosexuality meant they didn’t have to worry about their uncloseted children embarrassing them in front of their church friends.

  • Picante-beefbaby@alien.topB
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    While this is disgusting and I do not support the removal of books, I can’t help but realize it’s the same thing, in the end. Religious people push their beliefs/agenda, same as LGBTQ groups. I’m an atheist and a supporter of LGBTQ community, but that being said, I do not agree with anything being pushed onto kids. Whether it’s religion, Identity Politics or plain old politics.

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    Did the article you referenced provide specific examples? Because I think we need the actual content in order for me to decide if I’m ok with it or not. I would hope you feel the same, or do you air on the opposite side? How would you feel about tilting things in the opposite direction within these children’s books? What if they mentioned gays more and were even more racy, how would you feel about that? I read a book about a boy getting sucked off by another boy when I was in 10th grade. It was just sitting on my teacher’s shelf in class and I started reading without knowing anything about it. These were high school characters. How do you feel about that? I thought nothing of it at the time but looking back on it, that was actually pretty f’d up.

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        I think you should seek therapy being your life consists of being a bully on Reddit. Go make me a sandwich

    • Fun-atParties@alien.topB
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      10th grade. So like - 15 or 16 years old? I think 15 year olds already know about blow jobs. Alot of them are doing it already.

      Who cares?

    • gdsmithtx@alien.topB
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      Did the article you referenced provide specific examples? Because I think we need the actual content in order for me to decide if I’m ok with it or not.

      If you had actually clicked on the link and read the article before spouting your nonsense, you would have seen a list of the books in question. Since you’d obviously rather spew than read, I’ll do your work for you:

      They removed about a dozen books, including “Squad,” “Blood Countess,” “The Great American Whatever,” “Beyond Clueless,” “Red Rolls of Magic,” “Infinity Son” and “Icebreaker.”

      Maybe next time you’ll make an effort to actually know what you’re talking about before speaking up … though with the attitudes you’ve displayed here, I find that possibility distressingly unlikely.

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      I read a book about a boy getting sucked off by another boy when I was in 10th grade.

      I HAD to read a book where a boy got sucked off by a girl in the 10th grade. Cider House Rules.

      In the 9th grade I also HAD to read a book where a guy bangs his cousin.

      All you’re doing is pointing out that there is a clear double standard.

    • bellefleurdelacour98@alien.topB
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      I watched various movies as a kid where the joke was always the same: “oh noes a man thought the hot chick was a girl but she was really a boy with a dick and he got it up his ass ahrahr”. They were labeled as movies for the whole family. The humor was anti gay and anti trans of course, but I still got the joke. Does this mean the homophobes who wrote those jokes were pushing gay sex onto me as a child? Grow up, sex is a part of life. Kids will know regardless, imho it’d be better to learn about anal sex from something more delicate than a crass 90s movie.

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      What the fuck are you talking about? 10th graders, particularly 10th graders today, are well aware that sex exists. They know what penises and vaginas are buddy, so no a 10th grader reading a book with gay sex is not an issue. Would you feel the same if it was a girl sucking dick in the book? Because I bet for a lot of yall that would suddenly be ok.

      Sheltering kids from sex doesn’t make them suddenly not know what sex is. Sheltering kids from LGBTQ+ shit doesn’t suddenly make them straight, either they’re fucking straight or they’re fucking LGBTQ+ and you cannot force them to be anything they aren’t. These children deserve better, they don’t deserve the constant anxiety and depression of living in a world ran by shitstains who hate them for existing and who try to force them to conform to some bullshit.