mark was getting clobbered by fucking maulers 3 episodes ago now he’s able to beat a full grown soldier viltrumite that’s been conquering worlds for millennia just because he “stopped holding back”. Even Nolan who got hospitalized by the guardians while soloing them, only suffered a cut on his head fighting THREE viltrumites!!! Just makes them look weak in comparison. I feel like they shouldn’t even have any chance winning that battle at all, not alone surviving in better condition than against way weaker foes
I agree with you but by omnimans logic if mark holding back, he definitely could’ve killed the maulers.
Since Mark is half Human he should have a little shorter livespan than a average viltrumite. Omniman says Viltrumite DNA is so Dominant that he should be nearly full viltrumite. So maybe his human DNA lets his powers develop way faster than a 100% pure Viltrumite would. At some point of the comics they say that Humans could be the ideal match for viltrumites.
It’s stated on the comics that viltrumite DNA is so aggressive mark is basically 97% viltrumite.
I don’t think it should matter if he holds back or not! These are 1000 year old full blooded viltrumite warriors mark shouldn’t stand a chance at all
There are supposed to be differences between individual viltrumites. We already know Nolan is built different than the other three, so it’s reasonable for Mark to take one of them imo.
I said he would beat the maulers not the Viltrumites.He should have lost.
Well it’s not even about beating the maulers, it’s about how much damage the maulers did to him compared to the viltrumites…viltrumites should’ve done significantly more damage regardless of whether he was holding back or not in ANY of the fight, the power difference should be way way way above that scale
That’s like saying the guardians of the globe nearly beating Nolan is making him look weak.
No I’m saying them nearly killing him and hospitalizing him, compared to viltrumites only giving him a cut on the head…makes THE VILTRUMITES look weak, omniman has already calculable feats and the fact the guardians could damage him as much as they did speaks to their strength, the viltrumites should’ve fucked him up even worse if the idea is that they’re so powerful they only need 1 to conquer planets, and no, the sneak attack doesn’t count because Nolan was already guards down
Nolan is apparently well known among viltrumites, the ones that confront him on thraxan say “so this is the great Nolan.” So he has a reputation as a powerful fighter even among viltrum, and there’s nothing to say any of the viltrumites that attack him were as old as him or as powerful.
I think this really comes down to you not liking the scene, which is fine, but ultimately nothing is out of place or wrong. Mark has been seeing noticeable growth throughout the series and viltrumites get stronger as they get the shit kicked out of them, similar to Allen and saiyans from dbz.
Thula was shown during the great purge in s1 and Nolan was born after that
Mark barely stood a chance. He nearly died
Lmao he literally beat her tf are you even talking about?? He only hesitated to kill her but HE won that fight! He didn’t win against the maulers or reanimen, he had to be saved…even though he won, he actually didnt. He got saved. The first big fight he actually did win, is against a viltrumite…that comparison alone makes them look way weaker
Comic Spoilers: >! Mark’s little brother, who’s established to be weaker than Mark, was able to rip the Maulers apart like wet tissue paper when he was still a child!<
So Mark definitely could have taken the Maulers if he wasn’t holding back.
That even proves my point more, how are wet tissues beating mark in a pool of his own blood? Why tf does it matter if you hold back against wet tissues? He was holding back that’s why they could pin him and beat him? Do you even know what holding back means? How tf are you the one getting beaten to death and you’re holding back? If that’s the case that’s very very stupid, you don’t have to kill someone to not get killed tf, and again they shouldn’t be able to damage him like you said they’re wet tissues, he should stand there while they try to harm him and he should take 0 damage, you don’t “hold back” durability
His brother is basically Damian Wayne. He goes full tilt on first hit and explodes them. Mark warns them that he’s holding back and can kill them, but then they swarm him immediately and incapacitate him. I’m a full grown man, but if 1000 kindergartners dogpile me, I’m not gonna be able to get up.
Ok but can 1000 kindergarteners beat you till the point you’re gushing a pool of blood and struggling to even free your arms? And the difference between mark and maulers should be way more than you and kindergarteners, he stopped meteors months after getting his powers and they’re struggling against robot regular suits
I think it’s more like Mark was initially holding back, and by the time he realized how serious the threat was it was too late. Happens all the time irl. I’m a black belt and sometimes when I try to go easy on someone they surprise me with something I wasn’t expecting. In a 1v1 it’s easy to dial it up but against 9(?) people that would be more difficult.
That’s an issue of unequal skill, not unequal strength. An unskilled opponent can still hurt you physically if you let them. A punch from a trained fighter or an average person can both give you a black eye.
But a viltrumite fighting the maulers is like you fighting a toddler. No matter how hard you hold back, the toddler is going to break your arm or do any serious harm. They might poke you in the eye or nab you in the nuts, and that will hurt, but you aren’t going to let them do it twice, no matter how hard you hold back.
Again, you can’t hold back durability
Some things aren’t about the physical durability of the bodily substance but rather of structural mechanics. It doesn’t matter how resistant your flesh is if you still have joints with limited range of motion and that means your arms can be dislocated.
You just said a WHOLE lot of nothing😭no need to try sound smart for no reason. Legit got nothing to do with what I was saying anyway
Fighting someone to just beat them in competition or defend yourself is way different to trying kill someone. He essentially had to shut the human in himself off in that moment and be a full cold blooded Viltrumite.
Mark doesn’t want to kill and he is willing to take a beating to prove that. I honestly don’t see this as a problem. As it shows mark is actually really really strong instead of weak. Maybe because of his hybridization.
Marks a half breed he’s on that Gohan shit.
Two things:
Remember all of Mark’s beatings? Those made him stronger; especially the more severe beatings. So that fight with Nolan, yeah, it beefed him up immensely.
(Idk the validity of this but it would make sense) Adrenaline. Pure Viltrumites don’t have adrenaline. Mark is human, so he does have adrenaline. This means that he gets a huge boost in physical combat, and can overwhelm Viltrumites who don’t have the same ability.
Viltrumites dont get zenkais
Getting beat up doesn’t make Viltrumites stronger
Yeah I don’t know where people get this false info from. Viltrumites don’t have zenkai boost. The data book does not state that.
viltrumites don’t get stronger from beatings. Where does it state this in the official source material or data book? Nowhere. This isn’t dragon ball z.
Does Marks recent stabbing count as a beating?
If it’s inside him than yes.
Also Omni man had to let the Guardians rough him up. He woulda looked even more guilty if he was there and didn’t have a scratch. He had to sell his story so he needed to take an ass whooping
Edit: but don’t listen to me. I’m just a burger mart trash bag
Ok, they were still damaging him…their punches were doing damage to his body whether he wanted it or not, there’s a difference between letting someone beat you up and you actually suffering injuries from it, HE GOT HOSPITALIZED TF
I was just throwing my opinion out there. Wasn’t saying I’m right or anything. Just joining the discussion. You make good points
This makes sense, though. You, as a grown adult (I’m assuming) are likely 2/3x stronger than a 10 year old child. But if you allowed a 10 year old to punch you in the face and use weapons to hit you, you’d still feel and take damage despite the fact that you could also one hit kill/ko them.
Except mark has shown to be way stronger than just 2/3x maulers and could’ve easily got them off him without killing them, idk why peoples excuse is just “he’s holding back” holding back doesn’t mean you sit there and take a beating when you’re clearly taking damage. He could’ve just gotten them off him if he’s suppose to be strong enough to take a viltrumite in 3 episodes into the future
Okay, there are two types of holding back. There is,
Conscious holding back. This is, for example, with say Superman or Spider-Man against normal thugs. They have to consciously pull their punches or else they are going to cave someone’s skull in. Then there’s,
Unconscious holding back. This is when someone calls on way more strength than they believed originally had in a moment of crisis. This is like in Spider-Man Homecoming when Peter gets trapped by the rubble and is calling for help. He’s not choosing not to lift it. He just believes that he’s at his limit and genuienly can’t lift it. This holding back generally leads to a rush of insane strength when they finally stop holding back since he didn’t know he was that strong before.
Mark’s is the second type. He didn’t know he was that strong against the Maulers. He thought he was genuinely outgunned. But if it took three Viltrumites to go after Nolan, then it’s safe to assume he’s stronger than the others. So it stands to reason that Mark, even an inexperienced one, can call on immense strength. We also see him and Mark switching off, so Nolan was beating on her too. On top of that, he still lost. Whether he had her beat or not, he still needed Nolan’s help at the end to not die.