Clearly their relationship deteriorated once BJ started his lecturing gig and Hollyhock found out about New Mexico (nail in the coffin being the televised interviews). However I can’t help that feel that Hollyhock has some of the same character flaws as BJ, and despite his major issues , he’s still family. In that sense maybe BJ would get her in a way others wouldn’t. I kind of hope that in the long run BJ gets his shit together and they can form a healthy relationship.
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Maybe when she’s much older say in her thirties or fourties’ to get closer but other than that I hope not
She doesn’t need him. As someone who’s estranged from family and as happy as I can be with it, I can honestly say that I think she won’t see a point in reconnecting with him. Her mom can cover any unanswered questions from this point. She has all the evidence she needs to show her that her brother isn’t someone she wants in her life or someone who will benefit her.
So, no.
No
Probably not. I’m sure she still cares about him in some way, but that doesn’t mean she has to be in contact with him. She lived most of her life without him.
I do hope they can have another convo even if they decide to not see each other again, also why is it that everyone expects you have the obligation to forgive/ love your family. Idk if that’s your view but I’ve been told that so many times abt my brother bc I refuse to forgive him people alweays say but he’s family. It’s weird too bc when people figure out he’s adopted they change their view… can blood rly make somone depend if the forgive/ love or not?
“Closure is a made up thing by Steven Spielberg to sell movie tickets. It, like true love and the Munich Olympics, doesn’t exist in the real world. The only thing to do now is just to keep living forward.”
No. Bojack won’t get closure here, and that’s one of the major thesis statements of the show. Bojack doesn’t get closure with Herb, or Penny, or Sarah Lynn, or his mother, or a dozen other characters, he doesn’t get closure with Hollyhock.
And unless extreme circumstances bring them back together, I don’t see any reason for Hollyhock to change her mind.
Sure, when she has matured and had some time to reflect. She’ll see him as the troubled person that he is and know to not get too close or depend on him but appreciate him for what he did do for her and other things he tried to do. At the end of the show, she wasn’t at the age yet where she could see adults as human beings and not just parents/providers. Had Bojack actually done something harmful to her then it’s more likely she’d take the same attitude towards him that Bojack took towards Beatrice.
Lots also depends on how life goes for her. If her career takes off or she marries someone who’s wholesome, does a business, and whose greatest vice is watching R-rated movies, then she could enjoy life in a bubble and become increasingly harsh and judgemental towards others like Bojack.
No
I do not, no.
She was right to cut bojack from her life. She said she could use a brother, but it seems all bojack has done is been a burden and danger to her. Im glad she had the maturity to realise that and she already has a strong support network to help her grow as a person beyond needing the company of bojack to overcome her struggles
No.
No and I hold to the theory that part of her letter (there was a 2nd page iirc) was a restraining order
Ooooooo, I hadn’t even thought of this! Definitely could see this being the reason it rocked Bojack as hard as it did.
If I found out a person I have only known for like 2-3 years is capable of doing all these things, I would be afraid of them and never wanna talk to them again
Yes I think so. Relationships change and morph. Both of them are very relational. They are brother and sister and clearly have a love for each other.
She had already gone into low contact with him but mostly because she didn’t need him - She had found what she set out for when she originally reached out, and now she was having fun at college and busy with other things. She didn’t even show up for something really important to him on campus. Teens/young adults are self absorbed like that. And the last thing they want is to be embarrassed by a family member with friends at one of their parties. She is in a time in her life that she doesn’t need him but she’s not cruel and she’ll come back around in the future.
She probably wouldn’t be ready for that until she’s well into her middle age years, and I’m guessing by then BJ will be six feet under, probably due to physical problems (even if he stays clean, decades of drink & drug and terrible diet can catch up), or shit, maybe unaliving himself since chronic depression isn’t a problem that just goes away either, and now he’s sober and full of guilt/shame for a whole lifetime of horrible behaviour. Even with good quality therapy and devoting himself to “restitution” in the form of volunteering, teaching, etc., that’s going to weigh on him forever.
And Hollyhock, not only is the pain of betrayal and fear of exploitation and the moral abhorrence going to be there for a very, very long time, in practical terms she must stay away if she wants to thrive professionally and socially. Any association with “that fucking guy” is going to taint her relationships, even if she’s geographically and professionally very far away from Hollywoo – the stories will circulate, the names will be familiar. She might contemplate getting rid of the white diamond on her head, not only for her internal sense of distance, but to offset any random people making that association on seeing her.
So yeah, maybe once she’s much older, once she’s secure in her position in the world, where it feels like she has less to lose, and even something to gain, she might feel ready to reach out. But realistically, by that time, it will be too late.