It’s been pretty clear since she showed up that life in India was not for her. They really shouldn’t have ever gotten married. I don’t like her but living with your spouse and his family feels kind of hellish, especially in a foreign country. And the cow poop would have had me on a plane home by that night

Babies aren’t the kind of thing you give people “chances” with imo. If you’re uncertain about who to have them with or if to have them at all, you probably should simply not have one to be on the safe side. It’s not a puppy, it’s a whole human being and if you’re taking care of them right, it can be taxing on multiple levels.

Saying “I’ve already done this and the other dad didn’t help” seems harsh but all we can go on is experience and critical thinking skills to make decisions. And while using her experiences to judge Sarper’s potential parenting might seem wrong, his own past is even less reassuring. There’s literally nothing about him that suggests strong paternal urges/qualities or any degree of selflessness. He’s already thrown away one kid.

In the end it’s her body, mental health and financial/emotional well being on the line if she gets pregnant and he can’t or won’t be a good father. I don’t blame her at all for not putting all that on the line again at her age to placate some guy who told her he’d forget about her in days bc she didn’t just go with what he wanted lol. No one owes this guy a baby because he wants a do over.

I got chewed out for pointing that out in this sub. There’s a lot of gullible people in here. If he was a psycho who made her actually stop hanging out with her friends I don’t think he could have contained himself when she admitted she has not only been lying to him but also hanging out with three men during the “blackouts”.

I think for the first time, I had actual sympathy for Kimberly during this. If she’d had a meltdown because of this I wouldn’t have blinked, she would have been entitled. She missed a lot of required reading about India 😭

Feels like she knows she was a shitty mom and is trying to keep his life from getting even more screwed up and very likely feels responsible for this in a way. I’m sure on some level he feels the same way you do about it----that she has no right to come in and play perfect mommy now after fumbling the ball so badly in his childhood. He’s certainly within his rights to think and say that to her. But I don’t think she’s wrong for trying, and I don’t think it’s because she “doesn’t want him to be happy”.

It would be one thing if they really were doing good emotionally or mentally or financially or in any way whatsoever and she was just hating on them, but it’s clear to anyone with sense that this situation is not going to lead to actual, functional happiness. They’re already broke and miserable and adding more mouths to feed. Logic would tell you there’s nothing to be happy about.

It’s like someone suggesting to Brandan that pretending to eat won’t actually get him full, and an observer says “wow it’s like she doesn’t want him to eat!”