Hear me out - Jovi obviously makes a lot of mistakes in his relationship. He tells Yara a lot of lies, especially in service of accessing dancers. And of course, it could be that producers are feeding him lines, or that he’s putting on an act. But I can’t help but think that Jovi is actually a good friend to the guys. He checks in on their emotions, empathizes, tries to be nice to Ed, gives surprisingly good advice to Asuelu while respecting boundaries of privacy…I dunno, sometimes I’m just surprised by how kind he seems to the other participants. Also I loved seeing him and Angela do the obstacle course, lol

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    11 months ago

    Jovi is self-centered and everything went to s*** when they went to the strip club because of his sex addiction. They are at the resort to repair their marriages and instead they all act like teenagers! Asuelu has real problems cheating in his marriage, plus the way he behaved at the strip club says a lot about his character. He’s a sex addict himself! Jovi only cares about himself and always has!

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    Lord help me but I agree. I think he has some major issues and needs to learn to simply cuddle his hot wife like a grown up, but I actually ended up kind of liking him by the end of the strip club. Going to a strip club was lame, but he did seem to genuinely want to show the guys a good time. He was patient with them, gave them the lowdown on how it works, stayed mostly sober, and shut it down when he saw it was going to far.

    I’m not a partying kinda guy. I don’t really drink all that much if at all, I’ve never set foot into a strip club. But if I were to have a crazy night I think Jovi would be a good guy to have my back.

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    11 months ago

    too bad he can’t be a good friend to his wife & treat her like he seems to treat other people. we don’t really need to be praising him for being a good friend to other scuzzy dudes when he’s making an ass out of himself with his wife on television for everyone to see.

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    11 months ago

    Hes good when it benefits him somehow. That’s about it. He would never be a selfless good friend. Granted most people won’t.

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      Hi, I’m BPD and I can be a great friend but a lousy girlfriend/daughter/sister for many reasons if this is what you’re referring to. To us, loved ones are like a flame, warming from a distance – but get too close, there’s risk of getting hurt (cue all of the unhealthy survival mechanisms we’ve developed in response to a perceived threat to our feelings.) I literally can’t act normal no matter how hard I try, trust me sometimes I really wish because it’s embarrassing. At best I’m sad and sobbing on a primal wound level, at worst I have a burning desire to extact revenge

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        Especially because him taking the job would have directly increased the likelihood that she would feel more ready to have a second child! I also found his argument for not taking the job to not be very well thought out, or well-reasoned…

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        11 months ago

        It needs to be talked over between them as a couple before he declined. Total betrayal

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      11 months ago

      I’m actually a therapist intern 😂that’s why I love this show, the mess is fun but you can also see really interesting relational dynamics. The couples therapy that has been portrayed before seems pretty good to me, considering that it’s edited for tv. The therapists are very professional and seem earnest about wanting to help these couples.

      As far as Jovi and Yara, I think Jovi has displayed a lot of anxious avoidance. He just ignores or walks away from conversations that make him uncomfortable. That fixed smile and glazed eye that he gets sometimes, particularly when conflict topics come up, suggests anxiety to me. Luckily Yara is very strong about confronting him and asking for her needs. You make a good point about him being more emotionally mature with others (at least on the surface) than he is with Yara

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        11 months ago

        What was your take on the past life regression? I thought it was all BS and up until then, respected the therapists…

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      11 months ago

      Can be seen with personality disorders. This occurs with BPD. More can be said, but that’s my addition to the matter.

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      Hi, a few days behind but I’m a licensed professional counselor and think this is very common. OP’s response below is also very good. In addition to being a therapist, I’m also married to a man with Bipolar Disorder, and in our early years when he would have episodes, I quickly noticed he took everything out on me but would tone it down for others. I asked his mom about it and she said “he does that to whoever is closest to him. It used to be me, but now it’s you.” My personal theory is that it’s easier to do this to those you know will stick by you. You know friendships and casual relationships are not unconditional. They can walk away easily if you go overboard. But things like marriage and family, which feel more permanent, mean you can take off the mask without fear of being kicked to the curb. Obviously, this gets abused sometimes, resulting in being cut off from family or in divorce, but I think that’s the initial reasoning. “This person has promised to always love me, I don’t have to pretend with them, I can just be real.”

      All that being said, I’m not sure that’s the reason with Jovi, as he and Yara have both openly thrown around the idea of divorce multiple times. OP’s explanation for Jovi is pretty good. I also think the drama may be hyped up because no matter all the problems we see through the shows, their relationship has seemed to stay solid. I hope that’s the case. I have a problem with Jovi’s addiction to strippers and strip clubs, but I want both him and Yara to be happy. I also understand his reasoning for not taking the closer job for the most part, even if he 100% should have discussed it with Yara before making the decision.

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    Nah, Jovi threw the guys under the bus the moment he got heat for convincing the guys to go to the strip club. He took advantage of Asuelu to party his way and then blame on him, that is a shitty friend

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      One day someone else will and Jovi will be able to spend all his nights at strip clubs.

      I wasn’t sure at first but I now agree 100 % with her. Yara, move to Europe and see how it goes with Jovi and stay on the pill until YOU are sure. Miss Gwen showing some true colors taking Jovi’s side hiding the job offer.

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    Jovi isn’t a bad guy. The strip club thing isn’t as huge a deal as its made to be in my opinion.

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    11 months ago

    Guys like that are always far better, supportive and loyal to their bros than their wife or girlfriend who is often too good for them. It’s the good ole boy or frat boy syndrome.

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    As the old saying goes Yara wants her cake and eat it too. She loves the luxurious life that Jovi provides for her yet she wants him to be home at the same time. Let’s face it she’s high maintenance.

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    I agree he is kind of a good friend to the guys. Then that total ass big Ed throws him under the bud. Ed is a total dick!

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    11 months ago

    Except when he took them to a strip and egged them on to make bad choices and then threw them under the bus with Yara to make himself look like a “saint”

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    The Jovi thing is bullshit! Look on their Instagram! They’re happy as shit globetrotting! All in the name of fake tv! All scripted! AND, if she really didn’t want to put up with his really strip club goings on, she knows how to leave his ass! I’m quite sure she is pleased with all that money Jovi provides for all that traveling! 🤷🏾‍♀️ And all her designer shit! Cuz let’s be honest, how much does she really make for all that? Most men go to strip clubs and …. 🤷🏾‍♀️Shit, my man goes too! Idgaf I trust him! If you can’t trust your man, you already have problems! It doesn’t take a strip club to be unfaithful. Look how many marriages was because of the secretary, or undercover gay? Lots! Shit, he could of lied, like most men do! At least he’s honest about it! And he’s young! He could be out there druggie it up! YARA can do what she wants! So… People need to worry about their home first! Mind your business!💯💯💯🤣🤣🤣❤️