No. The point of the show is that you can improve, and it’ll be hard, and you might struggle, but you’re not doomed

Mr. Peanut Butter pushed me to start therapy! I’ve got some childhood trauma that made me see a lot of my dad in Bojack and from that childhood I developed a very toxically positive personality even to my own detriment.

One of the reasons why i love the show is that every character has their own struggles, very human struggles, that are caused by things they carry with them. Toxic positivity, nihilism, trauma, people pleasing, shame, ego.

I think the best life you can live is when you start to face the challenges or weights that you carry with you, and realize that there’s a beautiful you underneath it all just trying to make things better.

I couldn’t stand the things that Bojack did, but a piece of me understood what he was going through, and thats why some moments were so hard to watch, but you keep watching because he keeps trying, and the people around him keep trying to do their best. And you hope the best for all of them. And that’s kinda life.

If i could join the crowd and let you know that you’re on the right path considering therapy, i will! Regardless if you’ve felt this way for a long time, therapy would still be beneficial, and it shows your strength in the fact that your considering it as an option. The entire show i just wish Bojack gave therapy a long enough try. Its tough, it has to be, but its also transformative and beautiful.

*Gives you a tight hug*

You sound like you’re having a rough go, but you know you want to do better. And you have to want to do better for yourself, regardless of whether anyone else is there with or for you.

I know its hard to hear, but we have a limited amount of control over those around us and whether they wish to be in our lives. Sometimes we might hurt people but other times, it could be that they just simply don’t have the capacity to understand the type of pain or hurt or ache or depression we’ve lived with.

It’s a good sign that you want to attend therapy. No one is ever truly “doomed” unless they choose to remain fixed in that mindset, and no one can ever get “truly” better to the point where they just become perfect and lose the capacity to fuck up, but we can chose to do things that reduce or mitigate the fuckups we have.

PS, you can DM me if you ever want to talk. I myself am diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder, and I believe that neither you nor Bojack are “doomed”, you’re still growing as a person.

I think the fact that you can see there is a problem means there’s hope for you. I think the answer to your question about why you feel this way is something you can reach in therapy. I know it’s terrifying, but a commitment to total sobriety is the only way, but you need to come to that conclusion yourself. It’s about realizing that if you think you can keep drinking and using, you’re always going to end up saying “well, I’m fine after just using a little bit, so I can use or drink a little bit more.” You’ll push until you’ve gone too far, and then you’ll think “I’ve gone too far, so now it doesn’t matter. Why hold back?” If you’re at this point, moderation isn’t something that works for you.

Whether or not AA is really a good system overall, they have the very first bit right in admitting that your life is unmanageable and you are powerless over your addiction, and so by extension moderation isn’t possible. If you ever want to stop feeling badly about yourself for good, one thing it’s going to involve is saying no to your addictions. Denying yourself these substances that have caused such problems in your life is an act of self-love. Along with therapy and a good support group, over time you can prove to those inner voices that they are wrong because you wouldn’t put all the effort into sobriety if they weren’t, and the longer you do something the easier it becomes to justify it. And living yourself in this way isn’t selfish–if you’re going to treat the people in your life better, it starts with treating yourself better. The problems you cause for other people start with you hating yourself because of how hard making any sort of effort for others is when your own life feels pointless. It just drains all your energy for caring about things.

Anyway I hope you can find a good therapist and ideally a support group. There’s still hope because you are posting this here. You want to change, and that’s the most important step. I wish you luck.

Just think of all the things you think you are “deep down” and work on trying to do those things. Because like Diane says, there is no deep down. There is only the things you do, and that’s who you really are

We have a choice in how we react and what we choose to do with what we have been given. So no you aren’t doomed you still have choices. You may not have control over your depression (yet) but you do have a choice over how you react and what you do with your life. Radical acceptance - choosing to make the best of what you have been given and finding/creating meaning.

First of all, I’m so sorry. Please don’t give up on yourself, you have still so much time left.

And secondly, please go to therapy. That shit helps more than anything, it can feel weird at first, because you’re vulnerable, you feel totally stripped, but it’s SO worth it. Support groups or rehab would be a good thing as well.

You’re not doomed. You’re realizing there’s a problem, which means you may want to find a solution. It’s gonna be a long road, but it’s needed if you want to feel better. Don’t give up, keep the faith.

Nobody is ever doomed.

Good friend of mine was ruthlessly addicted to fent and other hard drugs for a long time. Robbing people, stealing vacant houses, living on the street, and god knows what other stuff he doesn’t talk about. If you asked anybody who knew him they would’ve said he was a lost cause. Today, he’s an amazing father to two kids, completely turned himself around. I know things may seem hopeless sometimes and it’s impossible to convince yourself otherwise, but no matter who you are or what your situation is you can always do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around

You’re only doomed as long as you continue making the same choices as Bojack before he went to rehab. So - if you feel like you can’t improve on these things by yourself, seek professional help. That’s part of taking responsibility for yourself. What are the things that you CAN change?

Remember — it does get easier, but you have to do it everyday. That’s the hard part

No one is doomed, even Bojack wasn’t doomed.

I told them I want to go to therapy,

This is a good idea. Depression is a medical illness, it needs treated. A good therapist can help you discover the roots of your depression and be an ally in your struggle to get better, since it sounds like your family is not able to give much emotional support.

Self-medicating is still medicating, which means there’s a problem it’s trying to treat. Seek out healthy treatment for it so you don’t have to rely on self-medication. If you’ve had any kind of trauma in your life–even something not commonly viewed by average people as trauma-inducing like cold or emotionally neglectful parents–then you should seek out a therapist specializing in trauma and addiction.

Best of luck to you.

Half the reason I’m on the sub is to give this speech. BJ made me realize I had depression because of Stupid Piece of Shit. I’d been hearing that voice for weeks and all my day dreams had been about self destruction for years. It was normal to me, I thought everyone had that all the time too. I didn’t get treatment for a couple more months, as my symptoms grew into a massive multi week panic attack

Finally I forced myself to get medical treatment. Therapy was alright, but what really helped were the antidepressants. Before I knew it, the voice and the visions were gone. I stopped taking the meds after about a year and the problem never returned as if I’d reset my baseline. Didn’t change who I was except that I’m no longer as fearful that everyone is lying about being my friend and I’m capable of having a wider range of emotions

I’m lucky, I took the same meds my parents did, as they figured out they had depression a year prior, and the results were predictable because of the genetic component behind depression. You might need to test out a few medications and you may need to be on them long term. But it’s so worth rolling those dice

Even if you don’t have insurance, there are usually clinics available. You can DM me and I will look up information for your area. Appointments can take a while to get but it’s better to be in line

Funny enough I’m watching “Downer Ending” rn, but one of the things that bojack hears during his drug trip is that it’s never too late to change. The drug hallucination of Diane tells him that he can be whoever he wants to be, and that it’s never too late to become that person, but you have to be the one to get yourself there.

It’s not too late. It’s never too late to be the person you want to be. That’ll be fiiiiive cents pleeeeeeeeease…

Nope. BoJack isn’t doomed either he just has to choose to turn it around. Everyday he can make a choice. And it’ll get easier. If he does it every day.